Better mapping, blm maps Options

[nuggetstosmall]

Everyone probably has this website. Its http://www.geocommunicator.gov/blmMap/Map.jsp?MAP=MC Great for finding exsisting claims closed claims and where gold has been found, possibly to prospect with permission on those claims or nearby.

[jim]

Very cool! I've never seen it. Jim

[Bennie]

ahh Yes the geocommunicator .
Even the BLM will tell you the geocommunicator is a good reference , but geocommunicator still has lots of bugs.... The geocommunicator shows the claims bieng way larger than they should be (like lode claims taking up entire sections) For an example the largest single claim you can have as a placer claim with 8 people is 160 acres or a quater mile and a lode claim no matter what a lode claim is a maximum leangth of 750 feet X 1500 Feet :).
Geocommunicator is a reference and not entirely accurate or up to date either


The LR2000 System along with the Master Title Platt book are the best tools for a prospector...


the master title platt shows if the minerals are locatable and is important to make sure that the public land is locatable (open to mineral entry or open to claims) and the LR2000 is the most up to date info available about mining claims , and is recommended by the BLM and prospectors alike

prospectors know the land ...

[CP]

Hello nuggetstosmall........ Like the name
Welcome to the CP forums, make yourself right at home.

We have had the geocom posted here before and it can be utilized as part of your research but as you see others have said, there are some problems with the detail using it. Not a problem though since it's always very good to utilize several sources to cross reference information. Think of if as yet just another tool you can use during the research process.
It's a mapping overlay program that tries (as best it can) to compile LR2000 information with maps digitally........whew, tough job!

I've compiled some detailed information on this very subject for club members to utilize when ever needed. You can find it in the protected club members section, hopefully that will help everyone out while you do all your research.

Good luck and we would all love to hear about the adventures/finds to come in the future!

CP

[ASTROBLEME]

"I've compiled some detailed information on this very subject for club members to utilize when ever needed. You can find it in the protected club members section, hopefully that will help everyone out while you do all your research."

CP

Dear nuggetsosmall:

Excellent post that helps to direct people to our government's web site designed for sharing mining claim information. GIS software is getting cheaper and more widely available now more than ever. Prospecting adventures really do benefit from having access to adequate mapping resources.

I would encourage you or anyone interested in prospecting to become a CP club member. That will allow you to get access into the protected side of the forum.

As it has been said many times before, “you get what you pay for”.

ASTROBLEME

[CP]

Thanks Astrobleme. very kind of you to say that. It's always very refreshing to hear club members recomending the club to more folks.

CP

[Bennie]

Also I forgot to mention that in States that are restricted from Federal mining Claims, Some of these state's will lease the minerals that are on State-Owned Property and also The UPRR owns millions of acres all over the US UPRR owns land and minerals from 1903 patents ;) and also are willing to lease their mineral ownership .

geocommunicator wouldnt know anything about those lands

know the rules and where your at , you cant just pan or Beep anywhere ... in some of these restricted states . Before collecting on State land, the state land rules of "casual use" should be looked up to see if you might be allowed to casually collect or beep . if its allowed itll be in black and white...



a good prospector knows the land Bennie Ulibarri 2009

[CP]

Right Bennie, since those are both private lands deeded to those entities, they would of course not show up in LR2000 (geocom's information source) since that database is related to "federal mining claims" on federal lands open to claiming, not private lands.

Folks should be very careful not confuse them or leasable minerals on fed lands.....all 3 are much different than "claimable minerals" on federal lands (FS/BLM).

CP

[Bennie]

Big Thanks To The CP's, Whom Both have helped point me in the right direction to understanding the various Land Aspects , and have also answered tons of questions along with many of the helpful Club Members Here On This Site...
id like send a big Thanks to Everybody that has helped me understand this stuff,
When I find the mother lode , I'll atleast be prepared to Handle the Land aspect of the deal .

I learned if your going to explore these lands looking for a new deposit , you must be familiar to a science with all rules and regulations , more importantly the availability issue, see before hand if the land is free of leases or claims for state land check the subsurphase plat book at the state land office and for BLM/NF lands lr2000 and the Master title platt at your local BLM office.

my rookie year is behind me. I feel im growing as a prospector and landguy

Thank You

Diamond Bennie

[CP]

You're very welcome Bennie, glad you have found info on the CP site helpful.
Keep reading though, it's a never ending push up hill doing the research.

CP

[Coalbunny]

Also I forgot to mention that in States that are restricted from Federal mining Claims, Some of these state's will lease the minerals that are on State-Owned Property and also The UPRR owns millions of acres all over the US UPRR owns land and minerals from 1903 patents ;) and also are willing to lease their mineral ownership .

geocommunicator wouldnt know anything about those lands

know the rules and where your at , you cant just pan or Beep anywhere ... in some of these restricted states . Before collecting on State land, the state land rules of "casual use" should be looked up to see if you might be allowed to casually collect or beep . if its allowed itll be in black and white...



a good prospector knows the land Bennie Ulibarri 2009

Not exactly.
Union Pacific RR has split off into Union Pacific RR and Union Pacific Land Resources. They "sold off" a good chunk of their sub-surface rights (water, oil, gas, mineral) to Anadarko Petroleum.

Best thing to do is check the maps at the county assessor's office. Find out who has the surface rights. Contact Union Pacific Land Resources and check if they have the mineral rights.

I found this out when I was doing a geology paper for college.

[rich on western ...]

Can't depend on the GeoCommunicator at all. Just looked up a couple of the GPAA claims near me and they didn't even show up. Not as active or inactive. One of these claims was located in 1996 You think they would have got it in the system by now. They were listed under the LR2000 though. Wonder how many claims are missing from the mapping thing?