North American Diamonds, Exploration of US Options

[ASTROBLEME]

Mr Tonko I Do Apoligize For the Picture Incident with one of my specimens and a Document that was an accident for the rest of this i have nothing to apologize for

That Wasnt one of Your Claims , Dont Act Like It Was . Thats Simply Despicable To Say.

. I Have No Further Interest In Any Of Those Lakes as Im Telling You Ritenow Thats Not a Diamondifferious Occurance , Havent Been Back Since I Found That Out , Im Not even Interested In Finding a new one in that area

I Told You On The Phone Them pictures Were Shot At The Unclaimable Campside lakes .

Also Notice the Trail Next To This Public Lake , This Is "Lost Lake" and I shot a number of pictures at this Lake and , We Even Dug a lil bit , this Lake Is 15 Feet From A Campsite and this half of the section is withdrawln from mining , LOOK CLOSLEY AT PICTURES Jeez It Should Look Familliar Its The Only One Of The Lakes With Structure and Walls on the side of it

+ I Can Tell From Our Phone Conversation That Your Just Trying To Get Information From Me aside from you sell me claims

Claimjumpings some pretty harsh accusations and now that I clearly Expolained which lake it is and ITS Visible which lake is in the Picture , I Think You Owe Me an Apology

Dear Bennie Ulibarri:

I did look closely at the pictures and that is why you are in trouble.

Lost Lake and much of the vicinity is held under lode and placer claims that my family and company have controlled for many years. Since you already had copies of my claims when I called you, certainly you should have known the active status of the Lost Lake lode (CMC252654) and South Lost Lakes placer (CMC252645) that you and your accomplice worked on. You shot the photos the afternoon of August 29, 2008 and subsequently posted them on flickr.com on September 1st. You are digging within the waterline and even in the water. I noted that when I checked the Lost Lake claims in early September, my corner posts were intact. I don't see where I owe you an apology, sir!

Your admission "We Even Dug a lil bit" is what can be described as prima facia evidence. You state there aren't any diamonds there...on what basis? Is your opinion based on the sampling that was collected illegally? Are you trying to diminish the value of my holdings? It makes no sense for you to go through so much trouble if you were just making an "honest" mistake. I see no need to discuss your situation publicly from this point.

This incident should serve as a warning to anyone that might be considering "claim jumping".

Sincerely,

Johnny F. Tonko
President
Tonko Mining Company, Inc.

[Bennie]

its like speaking to a brick wall
so You have a claim where its closed to mining , a reconvieghed and withdrawln parcel ,
Bieng a bottom feeder you wouldnt understand , as us prospectors know where we are and we dont get lost , and we research before we even go anywhere , not even god himself could put a claim there as its withdrawln from mining and wait i have purchased every location certificate in the area and there is no claim there . even though you may not be familliar with this kind of stuff some one you know evidentally does understand and I bet you they would be smart enough not to speak with their foot in their mouth

also the picture of pyropes is Hausels , and your picture of diamond is a chlorite psudomorph and are common in the area


also Id apreciate it if you would stop Contacting Myself, trigonmining , TS inc -as none of us are interested as we have our own sites and projects and we know what weyre doing , why would we claim jump we have far more promising prospects we are working on ritenow

this is not for claimjumpers eyes but Proof Positive Tonko's Intentionally attempting to making me look like a fool .

"Its Not Polite To Speak With Your Foot In Your Mouth" Bennie Ulibarri 2008

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[amethystguy]

WOW ! I am to new here to really get the jist of things yet, but I will be reading as this saga unfolds.

[ASTROBLEME]

Hello Everyone:

Here's what Bennie Ulibarri stated August 5 in post #12 on this thread;

"Whell guys, this is a kimberlite, even though I stumbled on these by accident , Dan Hausel told me that he discovered these last year for Diamonex when he was chief of exploration. he even said theres 5 lakes in a trend all of which are kimberlites. Im going to try to give Diamonex the shaft"

The map he just posted appears to be a copy of DiamonEx USA lode claims. What? Is he digging a shaft on these claims too?

Truth is stranger than fiction...

Sincerely,

ASTROBLEME

[Bennie]

Exactly !!! ,that was before i bought the location papers for this area,

Hense I Didnt Know If Any Of It Was Open , I Stumbled upon it . , I Wasnt Even Sure It Was A Kimberlite,

My Mistake For Talking Freely Its Only Freedom Of Speech and it is true my statements are infact correct and freedom of speech is my right to talk about wherever so ha

Im not even Interested Atall at anything That Botttom Feeders and Rumor Spreaders Have To Say; Going Through Personal Photo Albums Of Mine Trying To Benefit and Or Steal My Rainbow, Good Thing You Dont Know Where My Claims are ,your the claim jumper

Once I got certificates for the area as there was many claims over this area , I was curious but I Know That Kimberlite Inst Even a Diamondifferious Trend.
Even Diamonex Said They Havent Discovered Anything But Granite

You Tryd Selling Me Leases To "Happy Jack" and a few others Claims you Pilfed Before Diamonex had the paperwork done , Infact These are some of the same sites that they Payed An Exploration Expert To Find,,,, and you wonder why your having problems with Diamonex , Shoot Your To Blame Why Hausel Got Jipped Of 100,000 Shares of Diamonex Stock , because your a taker not a finder and frankly tonko makes me sick

Your Ridiculus and a Legal Claim Jumper that was attempting To Make Me Look Stupid On My Own Post , And It Backfired as By Your Actions You Have Proven that you Have Infact Legally Clalimed open but paid for ground so to speak

Lets Drop THIS ,,, I Have , Its getting too mucky , Ive said enough , all fact

I Know All About This Thing Called Diamonds And I Know Who From Who , and Who Is Who . I know all about you

Freedom of speech

[ASTROBLEME]

Exactly !!! ,that was before i bought the location papers for this area,

Hense I Didnt Know If Any Of It Was Open , I Stumbled upon it . My Mistake For Talking Freely , I Wasnt Even Sure It Was A Kimberlite, Im not even Interested Atall at anything you Botttom Feeders Have To Say; Going Through Personal Photo Albums Of Mine Trying To Benefit and Or Steal My Rainbow, Good Thing You Dont Know Where My Claims are ,your the claim jumper

Once I got certificates for the area as there was many claims over this area , I was curious but I Know That Kimberlite Inst Even a Diamondifferious Trend.
Even Diamonex Said They Havent Discovered Anything But Granite

You Tryd Selling Me Leases To "Happy Jack" and a few others Claims you Pilfed Before Diamonex had the paperwork done ,,,, and you wonder why your having problems with Diamonex ,

Your Ridiculus and a Legal Claim Jumper that was attempting To Make Me Look Stupid On My Own Post , And It Backfired

Lets Drop THIS ,,, I Have

Im Moving On And Been Out Of That Area For Some Time Now, I should Have Posted Here More Frequently I Would Of Explained all this months ago . Any Post From Now On Will Be Double Checked Due To Spies That Wanna Steal My Rainbow

Dear Bennie Ulibarri:

Let’s make sure I understand you correctly.

First, you jump my claims.

Second, you slander me.

Third, you want to drop it.

Now, you are worried about spies stealing rainbows.

Perhaps I've overestimated you, so, I'll offer this advice;

When you get to the end of the rainbow, try to catch the leprechauns. They will show you the way to treasure!

ASTROBLEME

[Bennie]

Whell Thank You mr tonko , for Falsely Making Statements About Me To My Friends I Really Do Apreciate it , Ive Only Known Everyone For Over a Year Thank You And Thank You For Invading My Privacy Online By Going Through My Flickr Account Thats Totally What a Doer Would Do,

most statements were left open and really were left unfinished To Be Honest , It Was To Premature for me to make statements in the forums about possible locations as I was still not up to speed in this area , I Took a few Pics And Showed em to Hausel and he said YES he found em for diamonex and later turned out to be all claimed up with the exception of recreation areas that were in my opinion Were the same thing as the other Lakes we did follow up to identify what quality trend weyre dealing with so we if interested would find another ....... I Posted the first post about lakes as soon as i seen em before i talked to hausel and before i went to the blm to see whats open , A Claim Jumper Im Not , It Was unclear so no sampling was done it was don however where legal for one to "rock hound" on public federal land its a "Casual Use" Rule and seeing how there wasnt a claim it was all gravy , I told tonko this over the phone

I Have Been Posting Alot About My Activities While I Have Been Activley Involved In The Exploration Aspect Of a Number Of commodities

We Dont Have to Middleman Or Pitch Our Sites As We Find Our Own And The Sites Integrety Speaks For Itself ,

YES!!! I'll Be On The Other Side Of The Rainbow , Thats Where I'll Be , I Wont Be Near Your Claimage..... We HAve Targets Here, Few States West ,And Even on The East Coast .
We Are In Agreement YES!!!

Im Still Very busy with a Few Gold Deposits Ive Personally Discovered In Larimer County Colorado as Whell As A Number Of Valuable Commodities , Shoot Im All Licensed and Papered I Can Buy Rougth Diamonds Direct From Mines If I Desired , I Have Been Blessed and I Keep Goin

When I Stumbled into The Area I wasnt sure what was legal or not , I did research and follow up in a few areas and that point we still never claim jumped. and that you led others to believe i was jumping a subpar deposit is perposterious , Ive read all about Chicken Park which is conected to Lost lakes and have read From The Real Discoverer H G Coopersmith whom said these werent solid Exploration targets . Which To Me Coopersmith Is "The Man" He Worked With More Kimberlites Than anyone , and I Believe His words To Have Merit. Coopersmith was There in 1978 and I Had Some Quotes From Coopersmith Himself I Posted here a post or two back ,He said a month ago

So ,You Do You , I'll Do Me - I Never Meant Anyone No Disrespect Or Harm Until Someone Started Throwin Dirt First ,

I Refuse To Share Anything Diamond Related Because , We Wont Cross Paths Astrobleme
Do Not Contact Me , I Wont Contact You
I Will Not Post To You - Do Not Post To Me @ All !!!!!!
I'll Thank You To Stay Out My Personal Affairs tonko

I Apologize to all Club Members , I Apoligize To The D's

Tonko Had My Phone Number And We Spoken One Time On Good Terms,
I Explained What I Did In The Area And Why and Where ,How I Had Pictures Of a Few Of These Lakes and It Was Fine , He new I wasnt Interested in this area and we were cool , , Tonko contacted me through a few other channels and offered me a lease for some of his other claims in "red feather lakes" and in "happy jack" areas, Coincidentally ALL areas along with lost lakes and creedmore areas all these were places where Dan Hausel located for Diamonex , Coincidentally where tonko has a bunch of claims , coincidentally subleasing to diamonex in a few places ,coincidentally discovering some the same spots my man coopersmith discovered in 1978 , a Friend of mine by the name of Dan Hausel said Diamonex has yet to give him his 100,000 shares of stock for locating unclaimed drill targets , Dan Did Work , I read a few articles in the ICMJ's talking about what he did for diamonex and its Very Impressive to say the least.

But In The Spirit Of Diamond Exploration ,I Prepared a Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjUIcJHbGcA

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[russau]

i enjoyed your video Bennie on this rainy/snowy morning!

[CP]

As the owners/founders of this site and moderators of this forum it's very important to us that information here is as accurate as possible, credited to the right author, posted in honesty and with integrity as stated in the forum rules everyone who registers agrees to during registration.
After several days composing this through much thought I feel compelled to post the following.

Although much of this threads earlier posts by Bennie have great info (hopefully credited properly if quoted from others), this doesn't change the facts that he's self admited to claim jumping both in this thread and to myself and others in person via the chat room on repeated occosians, according to him, in this state and Wyoming. (both federal and state lands) Even though myself and several others repeatedly offered information to learn how not too. We all also clearly stated to him repeatedly in chat that claim jumping is not acceptable and is punishable by law. Apparently this was not important enough info to his explorations or simply disregarded. All information offered for free even though he was not ever a club member!
No matter at this point.
I was expecting a wholesome oops I'm sorry, just learning or something along those lines from Bennie in this thread and I've been completely astonished/disappointed at his responses since.

From what I personally remember in the last year from Bennies posts and chat discussions.........He volunteered for a mapping project prior, then in the last year started prospecting (his first year), and since, he's learned how to not only become an expert diamond prospector, but he also recently started a website to hire himself out as a mining exploration consultant for the "big dawgs" as Bennie put it.

On his exploration consultation site (TrigonMining) in the "Projects and Commodities" section, he uses (for several months now) a pic of some spiffy aqua's from Colorado with the caption of "Located from a potential new mine, Southwest Colorado", still on site as of today.


and yet he posted the same pic here in the CP forums saying "Earlier this year I Visited My Friends 50 million dollar Pegmatite Mine , I wont Talk about it too much about it but heres some of the neat stuff we uncovered one summer day."
"Posted Dec 1 2008, 08:50 AM "


HMMMMMM fishy. Wonder which it is.....a new deposit under exploration (handy sales pitch for consultation?) or is it in fact a claim? Again doesn't really matter, what does matter is that misleading or misinformation such as these situations demonstrate are very much frowned upon in the mining world.

As many older members of the CP online community know full well..........WE WILL NOT PUT UP WITH DISHONEST BUSINESS ATTEMPTS THROUGH THIS SITE!! As we feel Bennie is attempting to do on the internet via this site/thread.

We do not often lock or moderate like this but, this thread will now be locked off to further replies, everyone may still read it anytime. We have and can start more threads with postive flows of information.
A friendly reminder to Bennie, as well as everyone else, the internet is a very public media including this forum, flicker, your site, or chat rooms.

Thanks to everyone for the great info in this thread and lets all remember to keep things respectful from here on out.

Respectfully,
CP