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How Do I Avoid Claim Jumping?, Seeking the best techniques for prospecting "open" land
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post Jul 18 2009, 04:11 PM
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Hi everybody. smileywaving.gif
HELP!
What's the easiest and most accurate way to view or to plot active mining claims? My goal is to preview claims from a birds-eye-view on a map so that while I'm prospecting I will not trespass on mineral rights. Geocommunicator.com is not accurate, title master platts don't show un-patented claims and LR2000 provides serial numbers that when entered into Geocommunicator.com gives all coordinates (each corner of the claim) in "decimal" format (not degree, minutes and seconds). The area I'm prospecting shows a claim density of 50 - 100 claims and I KNOW there has to be an easier way to identify/view claim bounderies without me:
1) Converting decimal coordinated to degrees, minutes and seconds (for EACH corner of EACH claim).
2) Ploting those coordinates on a topographical map.
In other words...
What's the best technique for prospecting while at the same time avoid trespassing?
THANKS!
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QUOTE (English @ Jul 18 2009, 04:11 PM) *
Hi everybody. smileywaving.gif
HELP!
What's the easiest and most accurate way to view or to plot active mining claims? My goal is to preview claims from a birds-eye-view on a map so that while I'm prospecting I will not trespass on mineral rights. Geocommunicator.com is not accurate, title master platts don't show un-patented claims and LR2000 provides serial numbers that when entered into Geocommunicator.com gives all coordinates (each corner of the claim) in "decimal" format (not degree, minutes and seconds). The area I'm prospecting shows a claim density of 50 - 100 claims and I KNOW there has to be an easier way to identify/view claim bounderies without me:
1) Converting decimal coordinated to degrees, minutes and seconds (for EACH corner of EACH claim).
2) Ploting those coordinates on a topographical map.
In other words...
What's the best technique for prospecting while at the same time avoid trespassing?
THANKS!


Hi English,

Great question you've posted, and very important as well! Whether one wishes to find a spot to claim or just a fresh place to prospect without claim jumping someone elses. signs021.gif emoticon-misc-004.gif

For the benefit of others who might be wondering this as well...lets back up to the very begining of the research and why.
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After one's found an area of geologic interest to them, ie.... gold, silver, diamonds, or lode deposit veins, placers etc. Then the next question is.... "Where can I look for deposits now?" We of course do not wish to claim jump on anyone elses claims and we may or may not be looking to file claims in the future. So, how do we find these "spots" without the claims? At this point if we don't want to file claims or if we do......the next step still applies to both, we need to find an "open area" without those claims to even prospect.

Now on the scale of 50-100 claims this would seem like a huge task but that sounds like a larger area of research English has in mind here and he may have been working on his research for sometime. For those just starting out, this may only be one or two specific spots you've been around and wondered about.
There are several sources of information needed to find the "land status" of each in question. IE is it BLM, NF or privately owned land.
Once you've found the right land status maps to give you a general idea then of course you will need more detail on each. Again, coming from several different sources at federal and local offices to check and reverify all findings from each too.

Along with this public information, there are many, many, many laws/codes to learn along the way for each step begining with our right to prospect and finding new deposits all the way up to large scale mining operations. With new ammendments being continually added every year.

The long and short of it is.....there is no one answer for all research. bash.gif smile.gif There are so many factors that could play into a specific piece. The county offices and BLM will have any location claims recorded on record which can be checked prior to prospecting to make sure there are no claims. Try choosing the best locals in your prospects and plan a day of research at that counties offices prior to prospecting, check out the best ones (geologically of course) and go from there.
There isn't an accurate way that I know of to plot that many claims at once with any single source of information either....just have to plot through them very diligently one at a time with the research.

Of course joining the ColoradoProspector club would be a great advantage, as we all try to help each other learn specifics about that very type of research question as well as many others....... biggrin.gif
In reality, this information (and the lack of it accurately on the net) is exactly why the CP club was started. If you ever attend any club outings, we also concentrate discussions during the events toward these topics too.

Once you've got the research completed and all is good.......GET ON OUT THERE AND MAKE YOUR DISCOVERIES! GOOD LUCK!
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- English   How Do I Avoid Claim Jumping?   Jul 18 2009, 04:11 PM
- - Mike B.   QUOTE (English @ Jul 18 2009, 04:11 PM) H...   Jul 18 2009, 08:50 PM
- - nm jack   Mike how was your trip??   Jul 19 2009, 08:08 AM
- - Mike B.   QUOTE (nm jack @ Jul 19 2009, 09:08 AM) ...   Jul 19 2009, 10:41 AM
- - ColoradoProspector   QUOTE (English @ Jul 18 2009, 04:11 PM) H...   Jul 20 2009, 04:29 PM
|- - Mike B.   QUOTE (ColoradoProspector @ Jul 20 2009, 05...   Aug 8 2009, 01:56 PM
- - English   Thanks CP! Your answer was helpful. For everyo...   Jul 20 2009, 11:03 PM
- - russau   AHMEN!   Aug 9 2009, 06:35 AM
- - English   Mike B. Good advice. But how would that address m...   Aug 9 2009, 09:35 AM
- - ColoradoProspector   You are very welcome English, I'm happy to hel...   Aug 22 2009, 04:10 PM
- - amethystguy   That is why i think claim boundry markers and stak...   Aug 25 2009, 03:40 PM
- - ColoradoProspector   Corner markers are required for all location claim...   Aug 25 2009, 05:08 PM
- - ASTROBLEME   I am happy to see this conversation take place. A...   Aug 25 2009, 06:50 PM
- - swizz   I find this to be a useful link for Colorado but i...   Aug 30 2009, 09:41 PM
- - ColoradoProspector   Thank you Astrobleme, it's our pleasure to hav...   Nov 12 2009, 09:00 AM
- - marntson   I have been meaning to ask a similar question, but...   Nov 13 2009, 10:28 AM
- - Coalbunny   In most places in Colorado the property bounds ext...   Nov 14 2009, 12:52 AM
- - rich on western slope   Rember that it is your responsibility to know the ...   Nov 14 2009, 10:03 AM
- - marntson   Thanks Rich if will give that a try. I should clar...   Nov 14 2009, 12:48 PM
- - ColoradoProspector   Great input everyone! There are some other...   Nov 15 2009, 11:30 AM
|- - leonard   QUOTE (ColoradoProspector @ Nov 15 2009, 10...   Jan 24 2012, 11:25 AM
- - ColoradoProspector   Hi everyone, I've added a post to the Fight f...   Jan 31 2010, 02:22 PM
- - placer   Sounds like you need to do alot of research before...   Jan 24 2012, 05:21 AM
- - russau   to quickly find out wh owns land in a certain coun...   Jan 25 2012, 07:39 AM
|- - leonard   QUOTE (russau @ Jan 25 2012, 06:39 AM) to...   Jan 25 2012, 10:20 AM
- - Shawnee Man   I am also very interested in finding an answer to ...   Apr 1 2016, 07:08 AM
- - johnnybravo300   The blm waives liability for the lr2000 even being...   Apr 3 2016, 07:17 AM
- - Greenday401   Here's probably a newbie question, but is ther...   Jan 23 2017, 07:27 PM
|- - MikeS   QUOTE (Greenday401 @ Jan 23 2017, 06:27 P...   Jan 28 2017, 07:37 PM
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- - fenixsmom   20 square acres in a rectangular strip and there i...   Jan 25 2017, 06:54 PM
- - Greenday401   I have no intention of trying to file a claim as I...   Jan 25 2017, 09:34 PM
- - johnnybravo300   I picked up surface management maps at the blm off...   Jan 26 2017, 09:42 AM
- - johnnybravo300   Mineral trespass in Colorado is a class c felony. ...   Jan 26 2017, 06:58 PM
- - Greenday401   Not going to lie, it scares the crap out of me and...   Jan 26 2017, 09:45 PM
- - EMac   If you're looking for areas open to mineral ex...   Jan 27 2017, 11:59 AM
- - swizz   Hmmm. I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer but I...   Jan 27 2017, 01:05 PM
|- - Crusty   QUOTE (swizz @ Jan 27 2017, 12:05 PM) Hmm...   Jan 27 2017, 02:30 PM
- - swizz   ah got it, thank you.   Jan 27 2017, 03:12 PM
- - Greenday401   So those maps would show where public prospecting ...   Jan 27 2017, 07:01 PM
|- - Crusty   QUOTE (Greenday401 @ Jan 27 2017, 06:01 P...   Jan 27 2017, 08:00 PM
- - EMac   Hell no those maps don't have up to the minute...   Jan 27 2017, 09:26 PM
- - EMac   Towards the bottom you can see Minerals...vs Surfa...   Jan 27 2017, 09:37 PM
- - johnnybravo300   As long as it's nf or blm is should be open ri...   Jan 27 2017, 11:46 PM
- - EMac   That's a decent rule of thumb, but it's no...   Jan 28 2017, 10:05 AM
- - johnnybravo300   We hiked in to fairview lake and mountain last sum...   Jan 28 2017, 11:00 AM
- - johnnybravo300   Edited...Sorry I misunderstood.   Jan 28 2017, 08:06 PM
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