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Cease and desist living?, property owners warning
Denise
post Jun 4 2017, 02:22 PM
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Just when I think things can't get any worse, the county comes and messes with us. They are telling us that we need to cease and desist living on our property (after being here over 7 years) because we are using an outhouse. If we had the money to buy a well then put a septic tank in we would!! As of the 31st, they are charging us $50.00 a day if we remain on our property. No where to go so they have a fight on their hands. I don't take kindly to being told that I am health hazard and a nuisance to the community. Court date is set for July 11th.

Pretty sad world we live in when the officials try to make property owners homeless!!
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post Jun 20 2017, 01:58 PM
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Thank you for the input Gene but today I'm in disagreement with you on this ......
I can not possibly see where the county has any "rights" as a government entity in this instance..... in fact they do not have a "right" but merely a "delegated authority" which they are clearly trying to abuse at their own whim "arbitrarily and capriciously" chosen times and citizens which is against the law at every level..... all laws are to be applied in a fair and consistent manner they are each written on the whole....not based on one single line with it's text taken out of context at the county's whimsical wishes to suit their fancy.

Yes it does say the pit privy can be prohibited but it clearly does not give them a right to prohibit them county wide at all.....in fact it says..... "they should all be considered on a case by case basis" and "according to the health dept's written regs on waste disposal". (ie understandably under certain circumstances such as next to water bodies/rivers-county should be and do require tanked privies.....even gov run campgrounds use tank privies close to water bodies.
Here we have no close water bodies but just loads and loads (100's of feet deep) sand.....perfect for wastewater/solid dumping according to science!
Without water in it, that is how it's suppose to be disposed of!

Now quite simply, the county is trying to say that I'm committing a crime (this is a criminal court case at this point), and without any proof or evidence to back up the accusations they've made of criminal behavior, that being the lack of all permits mentioned....non of which are required by law for me to "occupy my land" that is my RIGHT AS AN OWNER!! The county can not "regulate" my rights nor illegal "take my land" via these tactics.....that's purely an "illegal taking of property using the officials gov position via intimidation"..... more laws against that activity on the gov's part.

While I'm still not a criminal but standing well within my rights as a land owner.....no money owed on land...no mortgage or payments....all taxes paid up to date through the year.

I'm the criminal because they accuse without proof base on what you've said........preposterous!! Please show me where the county has a "right to negate or regulate my rights completely away from existence" I would really like to see this part of the law.
I think many many people have the same issue understanding the basics of pure ownership vs county regulations....they do not own the land nor do they own me!!

Facts are facts too.....every single person reading this thread does the same thing with their poop every day too......it goes into the landfill!! Just because most folks "on the grid" don't have clue where their own crap goes doesn't change the facts........it's either removed from the house/building using water (flushed toilets) or walked out to the ground pit by leg power instead of water! SO TELL ME FOLKS.....WHAT THE HELL IS THE DIFFERENCE?!

What's the only thing the sewer plant does with the poop literally once it gets to the to sewage plant?..... HUH anyone know? Well let me tell ya' realy quick simple and dirty......two things happen firstly it's dewatered! HUH GO FIGURE WE DON'T WANT IT IN THE WATER! DUH!!

Ok so then it's guess what.....that's right OFF TO THE LAND FILL WITH IT! Yes everyone's crap goes to where mine goes only difference is.....I don't waste any clean drinking water for the convenience of a fricken' flushing toilet!!

Which brings up yet another fine example of the county taking advantage of citizens and attempting to dictate the size of a waste water treatment system too........according to the county I'm suppose to install a treatment system that will handle 2,000 gallons per day of waste water (most of which they assume is for toilet flushing-2/3 of it).
Problem is ....my water right (yes i own water "rights") which allows me to have 1 acre foot per year in water from my residential use well once I get one (don't have a well yet).
At anyrate......simple math will show that an acre foot per year only allows my to use 850 gallons max per day! So why should the county require my wastewater treatment system be able to handle twice that much volume? According to the water law (water board not county) I don't have that much water to use.
Should I let the county force me to install a system twice as big and costly just to keep them happy when I know I can't use it?

Come on folks.....who else thinks the county gastapo has the run on you as property owners? Can they take your property this way and or force you (me) as an owner to vacate one's property based on slanderous criminal accusations without evidence, is that how it works in today's world you think?

Sorry Gene not trying to go off on you but I'm not in line with your way of thinking on this one bud! Let's hear some more talk on it......I'm working on getting with a public defender for my own benefit here as well.


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- Denise   Cease and desist living?   Jun 4 2017, 02:22 PM
- - nate   so sorry to hear that! definitely b.s.   Jun 4 2017, 09:47 PM
- - johnnybravo300   I wouldn't take kindly to that either. Especi...   Jun 5 2017, 10:39 AM
- - Denise   By law the only person allowed to dump waste on pr...   Jun 6 2017, 10:43 AM
- - CP   OWTS permits and systems is just one small part of...   Jun 6 2017, 11:35 PM
|- - Denise   QUOTE (CP @ Jun 6 2017, 11:35 PM) I'v...   Jun 7 2017, 12:06 PM
- - johnnybravo300   I wonder how they can think that way when most cit...   Jun 10 2017, 12:07 PM
- - CP   I agree Johnny, it's about control.... not ...   Jun 11 2017, 09:48 AM
- - Gene Kooper   CP, Not that I don't wish to comment on the a...   Jun 19 2017, 10:55 PM
- - Denise   Thanks for the info and PDF's Gene. I download...   Jun 20 2017, 09:34 AM
- - CP   Thank you for the input Gene but today I'm in ...   Jun 20 2017, 01:58 PM
- - swizz   You're a bit deeper into land ownership rights...   Jun 20 2017, 08:58 PM
- - johnnybravo300   Our founding fathers would be sickened and outrage...   Jun 20 2017, 09:20 PM
- - Gene Kooper   Dan, If you believe that I am an advocate for the...   Jun 21 2017, 02:53 AM
- - nate   It is just plain wrong what they are trying to do....   Jun 22 2017, 09:21 AM
- - swizz   I strongly agree with nate. It is absolutely WRONG...   Jun 22 2017, 07:00 PM
- - CP   Thanks Gene, I do appreciate your posts and info y...   Jun 24 2017, 09:36 PM
- - Gene Kooper   Dan, No problem here. We are both plain spoken i...   Jun 25 2017, 01:27 PM
- - Denise   Thank you very much for the PDF's and info you...   Jul 8 2017, 09:16 AM
- - EMac   Good luck tomorrow! I hope you're able to ...   Jul 10 2017, 02:29 PM
- - CP   Thanks Eric, so far it's just formalities but ...   Jul 13 2017, 11:44 AM
- - johnnybravo300   I really can't believe it's gone this far....   Jul 13 2017, 08:13 PM
- - CP   Update....... Had the pre trial as it was called o...   Aug 19 2017, 07:41 PM
- - johnnybravo300   Lunacy on so many levels....   Aug 20 2017, 07:46 AM
- - CP   Right Johnny completely! Good news on this fro...   Nov 30 2017, 06:24 PM
- - relicsncoins   Great news Dan.   Nov 30 2017, 06:38 PM
- - swizz   CONGRATULATIONS! That has to be a huge burden ...   Nov 30 2017, 06:43 PM
- - Crusty   great news!   Nov 30 2017, 08:41 PM
- - EMac   Congrats! That's great for you!   Dec 1 2017, 11:09 AM
- - johnnybravo300   Happy to hear that's over. Nobody needs those ...   Dec 1 2017, 07:05 PM
- - Colorado Roots   If you don't mind me asking but it would be ni...   Dec 28 2017, 06:55 PM


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