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Coaldale Crater Gemstones, Meteorite Impact Produces Rare Specimens
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post Aug 3 2016, 04:39 PM
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Many years ago I discovered a highly eroded, geologically complex and very ancient impact crater centered 3 ¼ miles northwest of Coaldale, Colorado (USA). I am announcing this discovery as a long-time contributor to this forum in an effort to assure that the public has access to this information. Dan (the owner and operator of Colorado Prospector) is preparing some of my "Coaldale Crater" specimens for jewelry settings. He has graciously agreed to document his work progress so that others can gain a better understanding of the effort it takes to transform these raw materials into valuable gemstones. Please take time to follow this project along the way. I hope you find the subject interesting.

I'll be sharing the science behind this amazing discovery as our work progresses. This research builds upon my work at Gunnison Crater, Westcliffe Crater, Silver Cliff Crater and Hillside Crater that proved an extension to the 38th Parallel Crater Chain dating to the Late Devonian Period. Although the Coaldale Crater is also along the 38th Parallel, it is not part of the well documented crater chain system. My efforts in the Coaldale Colorado region included collecting field survey data, acquiring and analyzing numerous geologic specimens followed by an extensive review of the relevant scientific literature. The results support an impact event that occurred during the Oligocene Epoch.

For now, I'm providing the attached map depicting the present peak ring exposure. It is fascinating that this impact crater has survived the deep erosion and strong fault deformation that Mother Nature has provided continually over the past 27+ million years.

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ASTROBLEME

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"Some day this crater is going to be a greatly talked about place, and if the above credit is due, as is certainly the case, I would like to have it generally known for the sake of the children." Daniel Moreau Barringer 2/1/1912 in a letter about the Barringer Meteorite Crater, Arizona USA
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post Aug 6 2016, 03:38 PM
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Very cool information Johnny and thank you very much for posting your discovery announcement via the forums here! We will be looking forward to more updates on your work through the years to prove up this craters existence too, just fascinating! Obviously since that killer gem piece was found by your dad years ago..... (GOTTA' SAY WHOA AND WOW TO THAT! jawdrop.gif signs021.gif ).....that is a sweet rock! thumbsupsmileyanim.gif So that would be a "chondrite" nodule? If I'm understanding it right?

You've had an interest in meteorites, craters and mining in general since a very young age. Bet you've had a lot of time vested in research and a whole heap of info to go with it over the years. Going to be fun watching this thread and project progress for sure! Stay tuned folks if you like this kinda' science stuff.

I'd also like to take one moment to mention that Johnny here happens to be our longest running yearly club member thus far. That says a lot to me and the rest of the club I think it is worth a mention. Thank you Johnny! CP_Member.gif

So, Johnny and his wife Donna drove down to bring some samples/pieces to cut for this project. I'm very pleased and proud to work some more material for Johnny on this project and it was great to finally get to meet them both after all this time too! We had a great visit and they brought several samples to work with for this project as well as a couple other samples I'll also be making projects out of later....... Those are not from this crater or included here though.

For now I'll be working on a cut lot of the Carbondale Crater Meteorite sample provided and tektite samples provided. The one meteorite sample we'll begin with for the cuts. First is a pic of the rough meteorite sample.
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Since this is also a project to help the further study of this material, I also took some extra time before cutting to brush clean out the saw used. So after cleaning out any other material/dust from previous cuts in the water box area under the saw, I cut the meteorite first which produced these cuts in the pic below....... The idea behind the pre-cleaning of the water box container was to reclaim what the saw cuts out of the meteorite sample....ie small chondrite nodules. So in the small bag lower right is the reclaimed saw cuttings for Johnny's further study purposes as well as two very thin slices middle right and upper right also for study purposes. One is about 1 mm thick the other approx. 2 mm. and that is done free handed on a small saw with a thick/stiff blade. Other cutters may have used a thinner more flexible blade for less loss during cutting, but I feel the opposite with that thought for anything over 3/8" thick....I think a flexible blade causes more waste actually with the uneven cutting that occurs (especially trying to slice or slab) which then must be ground flat anyway. All these pieces are flat enough to be blank fronts of the stones to be cut, or back sides without further grinding or waste of material. More consistent cuts equal no waste! happy088.gif

All the other nine pieces in this pic could be used to cut a stone I think, time will tell, the meteorite sample was solid and cut well! The lower left piece was part of the original surface that Johnny hand polished previously and shows how the finish cut/polish will look darker than the slices cut now do.

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There are several (a bunch) tektite samples provide to work with of which I sorted into 4 types so to speak...... Unfortunately all the tektite material is highly prone to cracking and with some effort through several samples I did manage to get a few workable slices. The types of material are all represented in this pic of rough samples. A conglomerate (upper right), a very light green(upper left), a range of medium greens (lower right and center), and a few very dark green with white banding (lower left).

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After cutting I've culled out these pieces as possible to work......the conglomerate had the worst fracture problem and there is only 1 viable slice so far for that (lower right with 3 thin study slices), next worst with the fracturing was the lightest green material (upper right) which may not stay together well enough to endure cutting/cabbing process. The middle row (up/down) is of the darkest green with white banding, I think it will cut nicely but still a fracture concern, top piece of that row shows rough side, with two under showing cut sides and one thin study slice at the bottom of that row. Far left group is of the medium green types and showed best for less fracturing but still does have them. Top piece shows a rough side, the rest show cuts and of course one thin slice at the bottom for study purposes. These have many inclusions that should be very pretty when polished out to finish. happy112.gif

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More updates to follow folks, this is going to be a fun thread and project! thumbsupsmileyanim.gif








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- ASTROBLEME   Coaldale Crater Gemstones   Aug 3 2016, 04:39 PM
- - Woody   Interesting indeed, I pass by there frequently...   Aug 4 2016, 08:31 AM
|- - ASTROBLEME   Hello Woody, As you pass the area on Highway 50, ...   Aug 4 2016, 10:57 AM
- - Denise   Thats amazing information you have provided Johnny...   Aug 4 2016, 10:46 AM
- - ASTROBLEME   History of Impact Crater Discovery John Tonko (my...   Aug 5 2016, 09:18 AM
- - ASTROBLEME   Gemstone Material Represented in Breccia at Coalda...   Aug 5 2016, 03:46 PM
- - ASTROBLEME   Geochronological Data The impact into the paleova...   Aug 5 2016, 04:33 PM
- - CP   Very cool information Johnny and thank you very mu...   Aug 6 2016, 03:38 PM
- - ASTROBLEME   Dan, I am so impressed by your ability to cut tho...   Aug 6 2016, 07:05 PM
- - ASTROBLEME   Shock Melt Evidence Hello Everyone, In an effort...   Aug 7 2016, 05:43 PM
- - CP   Very cool Johnny, and thank you kindly for the com...   Aug 7 2016, 05:55 PM
- - EMac   Hi Johnny, Thanks for sharing this info with us, ...   Aug 8 2016, 04:10 PM
- - ASTROBLEME   Hello Eric, Thanks for looking at this matter fro...   Aug 8 2016, 07:40 PM
- - EMac   Thanks Johnny; as expected, I've got more read...   Aug 9 2016, 08:50 AM
- - ASTROBLEME   Flame Testing Eric had questions about flame test...   Aug 9 2016, 02:21 PM
- - EMac   Do you have any macro pictures of the test? It do...   Aug 9 2016, 05:05 PM
- - ASTROBLEME   Eric, Per your demand from earlier this evening, ...   Aug 9 2016, 08:31 PM
- - James and Cyndi   this is good stuff. Thanks Astrobleme for sharing ...   Aug 10 2016, 09:04 AM
- - James and Cyndi   Astrobleme Before getting uptight about Erics que...   Aug 10 2016, 09:06 AM
- - CP   I agree, Emac is just diving into the subject and ...   Aug 10 2016, 11:46 AM
- - EMac   Hi Johnny, Feel free to read back over my questio...   Aug 10 2016, 12:29 PM
- - James and Cyndi   RE: Coaldale Crater Gemstones   Aug 10 2016, 01:36 PM
- - ASTROBLEME   Everyone, Eric is accusing me of a massive confli...   Aug 11 2016, 01:53 PM
- - GeoMatt   Johnny- Eric was perhaps a little blunt about it ...   Aug 11 2016, 10:53 PM
- - ASTROBLEME   Dear GeoMatt, In my very first post in this threa...   Aug 12 2016, 12:13 AM
|- - GeoMatt   There is truly nothing proprietary that I have ask...   Aug 12 2016, 08:29 AM
- - James and Cyndi   Somebody needs a hug!   Aug 12 2016, 07:50 AM
- - CP   Well this sure hasn't gone as expected when we...   Aug 13 2016, 02:50 PM
- - CP   Here's what I've marked for cab cut blanks...   Aug 13 2016, 03:00 PM
- - ASTROBLEME   Hello Everyone: Here’s the most recent mapping da...   Aug 13 2016, 07:54 PM
- - ASTROBLEME   CP, Your work efforts on the Gunnison Crater Tekt...   Aug 17 2016, 04:02 PM
- - ASTROBLEME   Here's a link to a news release that explains ...   Aug 18 2016, 04:49 PM
- - CP   Thank you Johnny for the fine compliments! I...   Aug 18 2016, 10:14 PM
- - ASTROBLEME   Slickensides: Earlier this year (without revealin...   Aug 19 2016, 04:15 PM
- - CP   Cutting project progress update.........This week ...   Sep 1 2016, 04:14 PM
- - swizz   Exceptional work Dan and truly unique and amazing ...   Sep 2 2016, 07:56 AM
- - ASTROBLEME   Dan, Those specimens are truly becoming gemstones...   Sep 2 2016, 01:18 PM
- - CP   Thanks Chris and Johnny , glad they've come o...   Sep 3 2016, 09:59 AM
|- - ASTROBLEME   Dear CP, When I read your post that the inclusion...   Sep 5 2016, 06:55 PM
- - CP   Hey Johnny, whew, glad you got the re-read and di...   Sep 5 2016, 07:28 PM
|- - ASTROBLEME   [quote name='CP' date='Sep 5 2016, 08:...   Sep 7 2016, 06:44 PM
- - CP   Yep Johnny, can't tell in these pics either bu...   Sep 7 2016, 08:00 PM
|- - swizz   Referring again to the meteorite specimens in the ...   Sep 9 2016, 07:46 PM
- - swizz   Very interesting, I'm following for sure. I en...   Sep 7 2016, 09:45 PM
- - CP   Another great question for the extended study on t...   Sep 7 2016, 10:01 PM
|- - swizz   QUOTE (CP @ Sep 7 2016, 10:01 PM) ...I...   Sep 7 2016, 10:03 PM
|- - ASTROBLEME   CP, That angular white inclusion that swizz notic...   Sep 9 2016, 06:00 PM
- - Denise   The cabochons turned out great Dan, nice work.   Sep 10 2016, 09:07 AM
- - CP   Thanks Denise, they were fun to cut and are all ve...   Sep 11 2016, 04:20 PM
- - ASTROBLEME   Thanks to CP's expert cutting and polishing ef...   Sep 19 2016, 03:50 PM
- - CP   Thanks again Johnny, I'm really glad they all ...   Sep 22 2016, 06:37 PM
- - ASTROBLEME   LUNAR METEORITE CREATED COALDALE CRATER! A ce...   Dec 27 2016, 05:49 PM
|- - GeoMatt   Extrusive rocks associated with volcanism in Color...   Dec 28 2016, 11:13 AM
- - ASTROBLEME   GeoMatt, Thanks for your comments. I do have add...   Dec 28 2016, 05:10 PM
- - ASTROBLEME   Dear Colorado Prospector Members and Visitors, Th...   Dec 30 2016, 08:56 PM
|- - GeoMatt   The plot on the figure suggests your sample has li...   Jan 4 2017, 03:10 PM
- - swizz   You guys are waaay over my head now but please kee...   Jan 4 2017, 05:57 PM
- - ASTROBLEME   Everyone, I've compared my data against NASA ...   Jan 4 2017, 08:48 PM
|- - GeoMatt   Actually, if you look at the source page for the c...   Jan 4 2017, 11:12 PM
- - ASTROBLEME   Hi Everyone, I have long recognized that all pros...   Feb 9 2017, 06:57 PM


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