"Prospectors" TV Show Back! Options

[swizz]

Just a reminder to anyone who likes this show ( me!).
New season kicks off tonight on The Weather Channel, I believe at 7pm.

[swizz]

.... just remembered we have our monthly CP Club mtg tonight too!
I'll have to record this episode.

[MikeS]

I will likely record the show as well. The show has motivated me to get back into digging crystals for sure. I have been following Amanda's FB page. I hope they show the Peridot she has been finding! Want to go hunting next year for some. They say the Colorado Peridot is all claimed up. I hope to show otherwise.
See you at the chat meeting!

[NewRockHounder]

Hells yeah!

[swizz]

Was it a good episode? I have to catch it on my "On Demand" feature once they add it.

[NewRockHounder]

It was and wasn't since the show aired, a lot more claim jumpers - seems to have effed with everyone.... what you expect tho making stuff like that public knowledge.. I wanna find some topaz now tho - more so than ever.... and from what Amanda was pricing her smokeys at - makes me wonder if I could price some of mine the same from Endless - some are a pretty nice quality. Not that I have a license to sell anything - but perhaps someone like Mike S. could help me out with an appraiser/buyer.

[swizz]

I wanna find Amanda now.....

[Caveman]

She's "claimed" Chris.....

[swizz]

I know, I know... 7 kids too I think.

[Caveman]

at least!

[swizz]

I can't catch the rerun on my On Demand, it's not listed.
Gonna have to get lucky surfing The Weather Channel listings periodically.

[MikeS]

Hope you caught the re-run before the new episode swizz. I was prospecting down that way when the tornado came through. I didn't see it. Heard about it later.

[Caveman]

I have it recorded - I can get it to a hard drive if needed....

[swizz]

YAY! It just popped up on my On Demand! I'll squeeze in some time to catch up today I think.

[NewRockHounder]

They replay the prior episodes Sunday night starting at 5pm I think. Might be 6pm. Sometimes all night Saturday as well.


The More You Know, do do do do

[swizz]

The More You Know, do do do do

LOLOL!!!
Actually, I can never count on TWC's scheduling. If there's severe weather somewhere they interrupt scheduled programming for hours, I hate that.

[Crusty]

LOLOL!!!
Actually, I can never count on TWC's scheduling. If there's severe weather somewhere they interrupt scheduled programming for hours, I hate that.

Right! Deleted many non-exsistent recorded episodes!

[Caveman]

Oh, yeah. Been there!

[swizz]

I don't have a DVR anymore but Xfinity stores it in their On Demand feature... it doesn't get preempted by weather there. no commercials either.
I watched first episode of the season last night. I know the claim jumper stuff sounds all dramatic but as a claim owner it gets me fired up watching it. I don't think their anger and disgust was exaggerated. I'd be pissed too.
Love watching the Dorris family, man they get into some good stuff! My favorite is the guy with the wolf dog who found and donated that massive crystal on behalf of his deceased brother. Very good guy and awesome to follow, great sense of humor too. Unfortunately he wasn't in this episode. Hope he's back for the season.
I have the second episode queued up.

[lostnewb]

I don't have a DVR anymore but Xfinity stores it in their On Demand feature... it doesn't get preempted by weather there. no commercials either.
I watched first episode of the season last night. I know the claim jumper stuff sounds all dramatic but as a claim owner it gets me fired up watching it. I don't think their anger and disgust was exaggerated. I'd be pissed too.
Love watching the Dorris family, man they get into some good stuff! My favorite is the guy with the wolf dog who found and donated that massive crystal on behalf of his deceased brother. Very good guy and awesome to follow, great sense of humor too. Unfortunately he wasn't in this episode. Hope he's back for the season.
I have the second episode queued up.

Without and spoilers you get to see him in the second episode.

--Chris

[swizz]

Saw 2nd episode last night, excellent. The Cardwell family is extremely interesting too, very good history up there regarding the road his family built and all the claims they still have. Pretty neat to see an excavator way up there.

[Marine]

Be aware of those who are on the show druming up "Drama" with wild claims - "Claim Jumpers are stealing from me" - Please note/see attached publicly available documents (note the Date/time stamp is from BLM public records).

The Orange paint (from 2013) and Red Paint (over the orange - Red Paint from 2014) - was actually locator paint for the property owner to have location evidence filmed just as the Film crew filmed in 2012 where "Claim jumping" was done on the Cardwell's Claims by the same individual.

All documents attached are public documents available either at Chaffee County Court or BLM records.

All the others on the show seem to be very above board and all except the "Claim jumper" have all their mining permits, reclamation bonds, etc, etc, etc completed according to the public records available at:

http://drmsweblink.state.co.us/drmsweblink...rch.aspx?dbid=0 search and review Permit Numbers: M2014*

you will see the public record for M2014032 and status: Denied.

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[Crusty]

Interesting... I'm surprised TWC is aware of this and still used these segments for the show. Good evidence for someone to use in court if this is indeed them mining on an established claim.

[swizz]

She needs a good spankin.

[MikeS]

She needs a good spankin.

She needs a CP Club Membership.
If I remember correctly after the first season the BLM came after all of them except the Dorris family for not following laws and regulations.

[Denise]

I agree Mike!!


Thank you for the update Marine, good to have you around the forums. We take pride here in respecting and understanding ownership and this is an example. Good to see your standing up for what is yours and hopefully this will help others understand better with your postings.

Our main goal here is to help prospectors/miners understand the importance of research “BEFORE” heading out into the field. By learning the proper way to research one can use this information to re verify land status…including those from invites. Many people might have just “trusted” that this person (named persons) would have done the research properly and have happily headed out to this location with them! One should re verify any ones information, or they too could end up in a bad situation.

Kind of ironic that when this show (casting personnel) contacts Dan and myself , they always get the same reply but we never hear back from them till next casting interest. Our reply pretty much tells them that we could help them show it in a more realistic light but without the drama and greed part…extra emphasis on how important the research part is before heading out there. That way viewers could get a more realistic feel of what it takes to do this kind of thing. Looks to me like the information they didn’t see value in, that we (Colorado Prospector) had to offer could now bite them.

I have never watched the show, only hear about it from what’s posted on the forums here. Sure is different to hear the more realistic side to this reality show though, just wish it was in a better light. Shame because it could have been with some proper research ahead of time.

[MikeS]

What a bummer. Named persons could have saved everyone lots of time and money with a $4 land status map. The property mentioned by Marine is clearly marked as private property. It is not only mineral trespass but trespassing as well. That includes the film crew.

[swizz]

Pretty sure land status research doesn't make for a good show or sell commercials. Frankly I wish all of these shows would at least touch on it. Not a high possibility.
It would be nice however if TWC would dedicate at least one episode to Amanda's legal foibles, or just remove them from the series. They are the antithesis of legitimate prospecting. Pretty sure that she and her hubby are the only ones tainting the show. Dirtbags, TWC should know better. On top of the obvious charges it shouldn't be difficult for the claim/property owner(s) to sue them for estimated mineral losses since it is well archived and documented in the series. Very smart of the owner to mark with the orange paint, super strong case. They bragged up and inflated the value of every gem they yanked from there, and televised it in HD. They're toast.... unless TWC is footing the bills. They very well may be, just to keep her on the show. She has a following... but certainly doesn't deserve it anymore. Booooo!
That being said, I can still enjoy the show for what it's worth. Some of the finds are spectacular and I really like a few of the characters. Plus, it's a treat to see it filmed in our state. The show would be fine without Amanda. Find someone to replace her that knows what they are doing and (especially) is actually a legal prospector.
I would also settle for... watching her and hubby getting destroyed in court for mineral trespass. Would be an awesome episode!

[Coalbunny]

I'm with Swizz. Kinda. Sorta. Not really. I mean, this whole charade is giving prospectors like us a bad rap. However, Chris can have Amanda. AFAIC she's, well, uhhh, compared to mining...I'll just shut up. How does that sound?


Seriously though, Dan and Denise and a few others may recall a few years back when I was mapping some of the "unauthorized two-tracks" in an agreement with the USFS as well as a few other chores in the general vicinity of Mts. Antero/White/Princeton etc. and some of the folks I met up there are not just a few fries short of a happy meal, but armed as well.

Something about wearing a USFS hat and staring down the barrel of some old coots 12 gauge because he's too stupid to understand that his so-called private road is really a USFS system road AND county road (shared jurisdiction) and he also does not own the land surrounding the road. Long story short, people get really really weird up there and it's unnerving that they have even a pencil & paper in their hands, not to mention firearms.

Along those lines, I know the Quiet Use Coalition did a lot of damage to roads that prospectors used to access their claims, nothing unfixable, however those eco-terrorists weren't exactly obeying the law. Claim holders were, QUC wasn't, USFS was looking the other way, and I know first hand you cannot expect the Chaffee county sheriff to do much if anything. QUC made several outright physical threats of harm to USFS personnel (myself and several full-timers), the USFS warned them and the CCSO was essentially choking their chickens over it. That is when I started packing heat when I was out there alone. But alas that was almost a decade ago.

Another thing that I think is in CP's archives is a dredge theft in the upper BV area, and I saw that same dredge days later on someone elses' trailer in BV. Had pics, too. I was advised, IIRC here in CP, to tell the sheriff. When I did, Tim Walker, sheriff at the time, asked me what did I expect him to do about it, and when I told him the sequence of events that led up to me calling him, he then advised me to keep my nose out of it, or else. That was, IIRC, before a serious event CP & D are aware of for me there, and I still think that has something to do with how that later incident played out.

Had TWC and Amanda used their heads none of the crap would have gone the direction it did.


One other thing- I'm saying this stuff with the full knowledge the CCSO, BLM, USFS, and QUC are reading this very stuff on this site. And I bet Amanda and TWC are as well (hint to Chris, ya naughty boi!)

[swizz]

And I bet Amanda and TWC are as well (hint to Chris, ya naughty boi!)

Possibly. It would be refreshing to get a response from them regarding their alleged illegal exploits but if it's in litigation I wouldn't expect to hear much from either party.
Naughty? Ya, I still think she's a cutie.

[Crusty]

Possibly. It would be refreshing to get a response from them regarding their alleged illegal exploits but if it's in litigation I wouldn't expect to hear much from either party.
Naughty? Ya, I still think she's a cutie.

Shouldn't you be plowing something? lol

[swizz]

ZING!

[fenixsmom]

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[CP]

Back on a more serious note.....

I'm not sure the show would be off the hook either at this point. Seems like this "conflict" has been ongoing for more than two years with TV crews onsite and involved.
If you open all 5 documents Marine posted it seems to me that the claim owner has continually protested the show and digging activities on his claims, but yet they've continued. Even talked it up about "claim jumping" while it seems they may have actually been the "claim jumpers"......Doesn't that seem weird? Or even, dare I say it.....Wrong?!

Will be very interesting to see the "reality" of the situations effects on "reality tv" in this situation.

Actually the show could have avoided the entire mishap by having an outside consultant to verify and help them with the reality of claims and ownership pertaining to them....Oh wait I did offer that, but they didn't find it to be necessary for their shows. Woops!

What's really a bummer is the TV companies (production and broadcast) will more than likely leave her and her husband out to hang for this by themselves all through the fine print of the contract of course. While they'll get 2 or 3 seasons of shows and still make their money on the shows in the end.
Too bad Amanda didn't have more help verifying the claims she bought and worked were not valid to begin with!

Just proof of what I've said in the past, you can't just buy/own a claim if you don't understand the ownership of a mining claim and how it began and works from that point! If you don't understand and try to buy into one you could really set yourself up for a bad situation.

[Goldman]

I find it really unnerving all this information about Amanda's mining issues. I use to have a huge crush on her for years. I been buying gems here and there from her for like 8 yrs. The weird thing I noticed from last episode is that Matt guy- her new "security" guard. I admit, I've ahhhed and oooohed at her pretty pictures for years on facebook and I rememeberd him from a lot of her pictures commenting on how hot/beautiful she is. I actually went to check and the comments are still there on tons of her pics. If I were Travis, I wouldnt have a security guard who likes my wife like that hanging around. As far as buying gemstones from her in the future, I'm gonna refrain from that til her mining practices are no longer questioned.

[swizz]

Welcome to CP Goldman!
Definitely appreciate your firsthand perspective regarding Amanda's situation. I also thought it was kinda odd in the last episode that she had a guy there overnight as a "security" person. The rest of the story as you described is just truly bizarre! They also showed them right back at the spray-painted dig again. Who was the guy she was yelling at that was watching them? I can only guess that it might have been the property or claim owner. I didn't quite understand WHY she was yelling at him either. Firing off accusations of claim jumping... when it's possible she's the actual claim jumper in that scene. I'm guessing he might have been collecting evidence, not claim jumping.
In other news... Rich continues to amaze me with his Topaz finds. The other groups are showing nice Aquas too. I still like the show, too bad about the bad eggs and I hope the producers learn a lesson from this.

[Goldman]

Thank ya Swizz.

Yeah, besides the bad apples I really enjoy the show. I get why they have her on for the eye candy, but there are other good looking mining gals out there who aren't doing things illegal. On the prospector page, I saw a comment from someone saying that the "claimjumper" was indeed a man who was taking down notes on her. I guess I can try to understand if you have one issue, but I have seen atleast 3 different people saying you claimjumped them? C'mon now. I mean, is she Bill Cosby? How many folks gotta say that you claimjumped them until people start to question it. I don't think any other of the prospectors have been accused. As for Rich, he never ceases to amaze me. That topaz-WOW! Everyone else seems do be doing it right.

[swizz]

C'mon now. I mean, is she Bill Cosby?

funny
I don't need Amanda for eye candy to enjoy that show and I don't think most do. There are definitely other attractive women on the show AND in the general field of prospecting if they are trying to maintain sex appeal, which DOES sell as we all know. You nailed it.
I would appreciate it if TWC would expose the situation but I doubt they will. At the very least, the topic of land status research/confirmation should be touched on or emphasized for educational purposes as Dan and Denise (CP owners) have personally suggested to them. For true prospectors/miners it is the core prerequisite. It wouldn't hurt the show to do this, in fact it would improve it and I bet the claim and property owners up there would very much appreciate it.

[Coalbunny]

On the prospector page, I saw a comment from someone saying that the "claimjumper" was indeed a man who was taking down notes on her. I guess I can try to understand if you have one issue, but I have seen atleast 3 different people saying you claimjumped them?

And I am one of those accusing her. My apologies to Marine as I stepped up to plate and started slinging the crap on her using information he provided. AFAIC everyone that had access to that should have stepped up instead of sitting and watching what happens. Either Amanda has proof for her side or she’s a claim jumper. No ifs ands or buts about it.

C'mon now. I mean, is she Bill Cosby?

N.
O.

Bill’s better looking.

How many folks gotta say that you claimjumped them until people start to question it.

Just one allegation should be enough, IMO. Such an allegation is a very serious one.

However, there are a couple people here in CP that are fairly quiet about this, as they made indirect allegations of me being a claim jumper. I asked them the simplest questions- “Who What When Where Why”.
Who says it?
What do they have to back it up”
When did this happen?
Where did this happen at?
Why are they inclined to make such an allegation, and even more so if the allegation is untrue?

To date no replies.

If you say it make sure you have something to back yourselves up with.

As for Rich, he never ceases to amaze me. That topaz-WOW! Everyone else seems do be doing it right.

I know. Nice rock he found, the lucky dawg!

I don't need Amanda for eye candy to enjoy that show and I don't think most do.

Duuuuuude! TMI! TMI! TMI!

There are definitely other attractive women on the show AND in the general field of prospecting if they are trying to maintain sex appeal, which DOES sell as we all know. You nailed it.

I dunno. I don’t look at it like that. And Chris I think we both know that very very few of the CP members are like that.

I would appreciate it if TWC would expose the situation but I doubt they will. At the very least, the topic of land status research/confirmation should be touched on or emphasized for educational purposes as Dan and Denise (CP owners) have personally suggested to them. For true prospectors/miners it is the core prerequisite. It wouldn't hurt the show to do this, in fact it would improve it and I bet the claim and property owners up there would very much appreciate it.

I can and will personally vouch for Dan & Denise as the totally coolest miners around. Coming in second it’s a tie between you, Russ, H2O and Leonard. I have met a few shady people here, but they are few and far between.

[swizz]

Are you off your meds again?

[MikeS]

Yeah, besides the bad apples I really enjoy the show. As for Rich, he never ceases to amaze me. That topaz-WOW! Everyone else seems do be doing it right.

Welcome Goldman! I also enjoy the show despite it's shortcomings. All of Rich's Topaz finds are quite amazing. The new stuff he is finding is starting to have the color of Imperial Topaz.
I have been digging in Topaz country for over a decade now and have only found 1 alluvial topaz, but in the process I have found many other minerals.

[Coalbunny]

Are you off your meds again?

Uhhh, nope. Got myself a mason jar full of tree squeezin's right here, and lovin' it! Good stuff!

[fenixsmom]

..... ........ tree squeezin?!?!............ no comment.

[Caveman]

Maple syrup moonshine, there, Coalbunny?

[fenixsmom]

Lol what a sweet, innocent, logical thought Caveman! I'm envious & need to take a page out of your book. Of course the first thing that runs through my mind is something innuendoed. *sigh*

[OklaPony]

I'll bet Travis and Amanda are lawyered up as well, we just haven't been privy to their legal position. There's just no way they could know that they're clearly outside of the law and flaunt it so brazenly for the whole world to see. Just makes the whole show more interesting as far as I'm concerned... Hopefully we'll get to watch watch justice in action for whichever side is in the right.

What I want to know is what happened to that Broncato (sp?) fellow from the previous seasons, he was one gung ho son of a gun.

Oh, and Happy New Year everyone and my apologies for not being around much lately!

Edited for dumb spell check mistakes.

[Coalbunny]

I know for a fact they are above the law. The court docs are proof, themselves.

[swizz]

I'm not sure how you interpreted those court documents then.
In a nutshell... this is what I grasped:
The court system found Amanda financially liable and ruled in favor of the plaintiff. Since she forfeited her appearance and the court awarded ALL amounts requested to the plaintiff. That was over $100K in theft, damages, and reclamation.
It doesn't sound like she's "above the law" at all from what I gather, $100K+ is steep. Also a great example that mineral trespass can cost serious amounts of money.

[OklaPony]

I'm not sure how you interpreted those court documents then.
In a nutshell... this is what I grasped:
The court system found Amanda financially liable and ruled in favor of the plaintiff. Since she forfeited her appearance and the court awarded ALL amounts requested to the plaintiff. That was over $100K in theft, damages, and reclamation.
It doesn't sound like she's "above the law" at all from what I gather, $100K+ is steep. Also a great example that mineral trespass can cost serious amounts of money.

I think he meant outside the law.

I missed the pdf attachments the first time I scanned through this thread and now stand corrected, she clearly knows what's up. If one of the claims in question is indeed the one with orange paint, then I'm more than just a little pissed that the show has led us to believe
something that is totally false. I'll still watch the show, however. The other folks seem to be pretty cool and Rich has got to be the biggest rock nerd on the planet! I also checked out Steve Brancato's Facebook page. That's one interesting dude.

Who knows maybe the production company ponied up the $$ to make this go away?

[Goldman]

OklaPony: "Who knows maybe the production company ponied up the $$ to make this go away?"

Wells, a lil birdie told me THAT is exactly what happened, and that she is proud to show pictures of her "lease" on the prospector page occasionaly when someone says that she claimjumped. No one seems to ask her if she is leasing it, why on earth are there documents before warning her to stop tresspassing. And why are there so many different people accusing her of it? Yall don't have to be geniuses to put 2+2 together and figure out how that happened. I wish I HAD someone to give ME over $100,000+ grand for screwin up. She's supposed to be diggin gems, but may be diggin herself in a hole.

http://coloradorocksmining.com/attachments...r_June_2014.pdf This is diffrent than the 1st $100,000 case against her that she lost.

[Marine]

Some recent history (2012 - 2014)

03/09/12 CMC283015 "Last Laugh" was filed by individual miner (we all know which one). Filed over MS19925 California Mine (52 acres of Patented Land - Private Property).
08/15/13 BLM declared "defective" CMC283015
09/24/13 Claim was Forfeited according to BLM LR2000. CMC283015

10/10/13 - Location Date as filed for CMC285877 "Last Laugh" (same name, new claim number and filing).
01/08/14 - New Claim CMC285877 filed, with location date of 10/10/13. Claim is on the California Lode of MS19925 California Mine (made up of the Utah Lode, California Lode and White Rock Extension).
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01/18/2015 - on the show, said miner indicates she is going to give the "last laugh" back to the Forest Service.......

First notice of Trespass sent to miner from property owner (his attorney) via certified mail on October 02,2013. Second Notice of trespass sent on June 11, 2014. In both cases, notices were certified mailed to both the miner and also to the entertainment company filming.

2013 season the "location paint" was orange and in 2014, the "location paint" was red - providing owner with proof positive of location being mined and actively filmed/shown on National TV. Clearly the location has been very well documented, GPS'd, professional survey completed for the private property, No Trespassing signs posted, cable gates installed, etc. Loads of documentation exists - including knowing that "Icy Blue Pocket" is 173 feet onto the California Lode of MS19925. The overly dramatic "actor" aka the "miner" mined the private property in both 2013 and 2014 seasons. After having mined on the Cardwells claims during the 2012 season.

Yes, there was a settlement between the entertainment company and the property owner - that was completed at the end of the 2014 Summer/Fall.

The man who the miner was screaming at and calling "claim jumper" was authorized to be there, Mike was taking notes and photos and observing that particular week - all such provided to the property owner of MS19925 - a retired US Navy Veteran and a great gentleman. Mike, a USMC Vietnam Veteran, was also there on the Haley Quinn#2 (CMC277124) with written permission from the CMC277124 Claim owners..

Unlike the implication on the "show" - WE DO NOT RECOMMEND making threats or shooting any one over a "rock", mineral, etc. Life is far too precious, and far too short as it is. Additionally, unlike many who have posted on the "FB" page for that "show" - WE DO NOT RECOMMEND rolling rocks down onto people or throwing rocks, etc at others. Again Life is far too precious and you just don't know what the other party may have or not.

MS19925 California Mine is a well known location and a famous mine with known beryl, aquamarine and other gemstone deposits. Google: MS19925 California Mine beryl usgs and you will find some interesting documents such as: pubs.usgs.gov/bul/0982d/report.pdf and others. USGS Maps exist from 1962/1963 including maps of the long tunnel and other geological information.

MS19925 California Mine (52 acres) is up for sale, asking price of $131,000. If interesting, I can put you in touch with the owner.

We hope everyone will honor and respect private property, just as they would want respect of their own homes from intruders. The area is being carefully monitored..... And will be under greater monitoring during early dig season to winter...

Questions - ask.

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[swizz]

Outstanding information and fantastic pics Marine.
I am 100% jaded by Amanda and Travis' exploits and am truly amazed that they have been allowed to continue despite the most obvious trespass, defaults, court decision(s), and fines in excess of $100K. How is this possible????
In addition, it appears that they are doing the exact same thing AGAIN! Please tell me how this is possible. Are they millionaires that can afford to keep blatantly breaking the law on television knowing they can just buy their way out of it?
Compared to all others, their finds are less than spectacular. She looks like a bumbling idiot to me now... wandering all over everyone's claims with a camera crew, stealing mineral resources, bragging about it, and over-filing. Court strikes her down hard... and there she is AGAIN, doing the same damn thing the next season. What gives?
This begs to be clarified and exposed for the betterment of prospecting and mining. Was the default you first referred to settled out of court?
There are missing pieces to the puzzle here.

[Crusty]

Outstanding information and fantastic pics Marine.
I am 100% jaded by Amanda and Travis' exploits and am truly amazed that they have been allowed to continue despite the most obvious trespass, defaults, court decision, and fines in excess of $100K. How is this possible????
In addition, it appears that they are doing the exact same thing AGAIN! Please tell me how this is possible. Are they millionaires that can afford to keep blatantly breaking the law on television knowing they can just buy their way out of it? There are missing pieces to the puzzle here.
Compared to all others, their finds are less than spectacular. She looks like a bumbling idiot to me now... wandering all over everyone's claims with a camera crew, stealing mineral resources, bragging about it, and over-filing. Court strikes her down hard... and there she is AGAIN, doing the same damn thing the next season. What gives?
This begs to be clarified and exposed for the betterment of prospecting and mining. Was the default you first referred to settled out of court?

Can't say it surprises me... lots of "reality" TV shows making money off folks breaking the law... moonshiners for example. Not sure how they get away with showing illegal activity on TV without the folks breaking the law and those paying them for doing so ending up in jail.

[Denise]

Best place to find "reality" Crusty is right here in text. I don't watch those shows myself. I find much better info right here in the CP forums...... one just has to read.

Thanks for the update Marine, your information, knowledge and respect is greatly appreciated here.


Denise

[swizz]

I find my critical information here too.... but it's still a dang fun show to watch. The show provides entertainment, not legal information. I'm not sure that it's billed as a "reality" tv show, not much scripted 'drama'. Certainly nothing like the Hoffmans and that goofy series. They play up the danger factor and the weather with this show.... but they are the weather channel, and you need a hook going into commercial breaks. They're shooting for an 'entertainment' aspect. It's entertaining to me when they display the nice gemmy footage in HD, jaw dropping sometimes.
I'll never stop tuning in to see the spectacular finds of Rich, the Dorris family and others. Amanda and Travis should take a hike. Really a bad mark on the series and TWC is apparently trying to sweep it under the carpet. Shameful. She belongs in jail and her violations made public on the show.
(... and someone should probably ram that hand cannon up Travis' arse already)

[AirBreather]

Prospector's is one of my favorite "reality" programs and I respect what they can do,, make money loving what they do and then making more on top of that... BUT.. That one guy that has long curly locks, looks like a wanna be WWF wrestler and drives the Hummer up in the mess. They were classifying and/or running a sluice up above tree line. That's when the "guy" picked out an aquamarine and did a close up of the gem. I noticed his fingernails were not dirty and they looked like they had just been manicured.... Just sayin' and making an observation.....

[fenixsmom]

Maybe he was wearing ugly gloves & was asked to take them off.

[fenixsmom]

I finally saw a picture of Amanda. She's pretty damn hot. "Jerkface." (~Minig) but hot.

[Coalbunny]

JESSIE!!!!!


I am far better looking than her, and darlin', I done been beat with an ugly stick TWICE!
And I'm a guy!

[fenixsmom]

Hmm the pictures I saw where of a super hot model. The reviews I read said Amanda's was a model before becoming a prospector. Perhaps I added the wrong 2 together.

[swizz]

The reviews I read said Amanda's was a model before becoming a prospector claim jumper.

corrected for accuracy

[fenixsmom]

I stand corrected!

[Denise]

I am far better looking than her, and darlin', I done been beat with an ugly stick TWICE!
And I'm a guy!

Aww, don't cut yourself "short" Coalbunny! You're darn cute for an umpa lumpa.

[Coalbunny]

Well, a bald one, at least!

[Crusty]

Interesting story on ythe subject!
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_24041641...eality-colorado

[CP]

Think that is an older article from August of 2013 Crusty and may not have had the facts all straight/checked when written if I remember it right?

[Coalbunny]

Dan.

(cough cough)

Dan. We are talking about the media, here....

[swizz]

Interesting story on ythe subject!
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_24041641...eality-colorado

Horrible article choc full of misinformation. We've discussed the biases of that author here before in regard to the very same article.
Nancy gets a big 2 thumbs down for that effort.

[Crusty]

Missed the previous discussion. If the article is no good, I'll delete my post (or one of you admins cab delete it).

[Denise]

It's ok Crusty, Swizz was just stating that it was discussed in another thread already...but now you have "the rest of the story".

[Goldman]

Hmmmm.... I'm done flabergasted [ I know I spelled that wrong, m-kay?] over all drama surrounding this woman. http://gazette.com/actress-fountain-police...article/1500817 Wasn't this her mining partner in the first season or 2? It sure nuff looks like him. I think more than claim jumping is going on! Maybe if her and Travis don't work out she can hire me as her new "mining partner." Just kiddin folks. I have never had one problem wit the law, and it seems like she stays in the courts. But Can I just say HOLY SMOKES on Rich's finds last episode. That MAN never cease to impress and amaze me!

[Coalbunny]

Hmmmm.... I'm done flabergasted [ I know I spelled that wrong, m-kay?] over all drama surrounding this woman. [website removed] Wasn't this her mining partner in the first season or 2? It sure nuff looks like him. I think more than claim jumping is going on! Maybe if her and Travis don't work out she can hire me as her new "mining partner." Just kiddin folks. I have never had one problem wit the law, and it seems like she stays in the courts. But Can I just say HOLY SMOKES on Rich's finds last episode. That MAN never cease to impress and amaze me!

Yep. Confirmed. I've done seen a lot better. I think Hillary Clinton's better looking than that girl. Bleech!

[Gene Kooper]

With regard to the patented claims discussed in Marine's January 19, 2015 post, I would like to add a caution to not solely rely upon the record information for the location of patented mining claims. Mineral survey No. 19925 includes three lode claims. The approved plat and field notes show that each lode claim is tied to a nearby rectangular survey corner (i.e. section corner). I have some familiarity with the survey work and record information for Sur. No. 19926 as shown on the BLM's Land Status Records. The problem is that the positions of the claims WRT to the section corner is in error by approx. 300 feet. The BLM Land Status Records (Master and/or Supplemental Title Plats) do not always accurately show the position of patented mineral lands. After a claimant registers their claim with the BLM, the BLM usually conducts a cursory check to see that the claim's discovery (as best as they can determine from the claimant's location certificate) is located on ground open for mineral entry.

That does not excuse the "prospector's" trespass onto private land in any way!!

Being a recent member of the forum, I've taken the opportunity to peruse some of the topics on this forum. I am pleased that folks stress the importance of research before wandering out and digging holes. While researching the record information available at the BLM Public Room is important, having a familiarity with the area is also important. I am new here and don't wish for folks to think that a land surveyor must or should be involved in the research and location of mining claims. However, if you are hauling out tens of thousands of dollars in aquamarine on national TV all the while cursing those damned claim jumpers stealing money from your kids' mouths, you might want to spend a bit more time proving up the validity of your claim.

[edited the first paragraph for clarity]

[Denise]

Thanks for the great information Gene and welcome to the CP forums.

[Gene Kooper]

Oops, I should have looked more closely at the map prepared by SouthWest Land Surveying that Marine posted on page 2 before posting late at night from memory (do you have an old geezer smilie?). The surveyor's map shows that the SE Cor. of Sec. 23, T51N, R6E is approx. 600 feet west and 200 feet north of where the topo map shows the corner to be. The surveyors' map shows that he found Cors. Nos. 1 and 2 of the California Lode (south side line), Cor. No. 2 of the White Rock Extension (SE Cor.) and the SE Cor. of Sec. 23. The error wasn't in the tie to the section corner but rather the erroneous depiction of the section lines on the topo quad.

When I was told about the survey, I thought the error lied with where the BLM showed MS 19925 to be, not with the erroneous position of the section lines on the topo quad. I've run into that problem several times.

I uploaded the official mineral survey plat. It shows the mining improvements on the lodes and the aliquot lines of the SW-1/4 of Sec. 23 that match those shown on the SouthWest Land Surveying map. The mining improvements shown on the topo quad match the locations on the MS plat.

[attachment=8120:MS19925_Plat.pdf]

[fenixsmom]

Welcome to the forum! I think you'll fit in well here!

[Marine]

Oops, I should have looked more closely at the map prepared by SouthWest Land Surveying that Marine posted on page 2 before posting late at night from memory (do you have an old geezer smilie?). The surveyor's map shows that the SE Cor. of Sec. 23, T51N, R6E is approx. 600 feet west and 200 feet north of where the topo map shows the corner to be. The surveyors' map shows that he found Cors. Nos. 1 and 2 of the California Lode (south side line), Cor. No. 2 of the White Rock Extension (SE Cor.) and the SE Cor. of Sec. 23. The error wasn't in the tie to the section corner but rather the erroneous depiction of the section lines on the topo quad.

When I was told about the survey, I thought the error lied with where the BLM showed MS 19925 to be, not with the erroneous position of the section lines on the topo quad. I've run into that problem several times.

I uploaded the official mineral survey plat. It shows the mining improvements on the lodes and the aliquot lines of the SW-1/4 of Sec. 23 that match those shown on the SouthWest Land Surveying map. The mining improvements shown on the topo quad match the locations on the MS plat.

[attachment=8120:MS19925_Plat.pdf]

** Update **

Actually the error was BLM's error in their mapping data, having never located the actual section corners of the 7.5 St Elmo Topo area - if you look at the 7.5 minute of St Elmo, you will notice there are no "RED" "+" signs in the corners of the sections. Since USFS maps use the BLM mapping data, well - their maps will also be updated to reflect, not just for MS19925 but most likely for the many other Patented Lands in that area as well.

That is until the BLM Cadastral Surveyor Mr. Wayne Hancock traveled up to the area on 07/16/2015 and properly located the Section 23 Corner as well as expected the California Lode Corners #1 and #2 - exactly where the Sourthwest Land Survey map indicated....

Attached is the GPS CORNER RECOVERY\LOCATION CARD from BLM for Section 23 as of 07/16/2015 - which BLM will now be updating all of their mapping data.

What is very important - is the Corner of Section 23 can now be utilized as reference for any and all Claims up there and the section corner is finally found/located and documented (GPS, Photo, etc) by BLM Cadastral Surveyor.

Of course what is very interesting - the location of all the documented mineral deposits, and the underground tunnel and the mine Adit - never physically moved over into the Baldwin Gulch as BLM and USFS maps have erroneously showed for years, those are all in the exact location as shown on the Southwest Land Survey just the same as on the original survey from 1918 or so.

Yep, the BLM had the wrong mapping data, and now that will get adjusted appropriately to where the actual section 23 corner is truly located as documented on 07/16/2015.

Also MS19925 has been sold and is no longer available.

Happy Days to all.

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[Crusty]

Season 4 has begun! Glad to see the Dorris family find some awesome Topaz!

Looks like they're still going to use Amanda to add "drama" to the show, with a silly segment on her getting "buried" and being "saved" by her mining partner.

Jonesing to dig now... think Nate and I are going to go up to Gold Camp again today!!

[swizz]

Had to work into the evening hours last night so I missed out... will have to pull it from On Demand and get caught up.

[OklaPony]

Season 4 has begun! Glad to see the Dorris family find some awesome Topaz!

Looks like they're still going to use Amanda to add "drama" to the show, with a silly segment on her getting "buried" and being "saved" by her mining partner.

Jonesing to dig now... think Nate and I are going to go up to Gold Camp again today!!

And.... no Travis?

[Goldman]

From what i heard around town at at the gem show, that claimjumper has jumped at least 3 different of her peers from the show. One of them there has been an actual lawsuit where she lost that anyone can find online. One of the new cast members [a man] this season was even claimjumped by her. He caught her red handed on his property!!! Go check her friend list and ask yourself why 90% of the peers on the show are not facebook friends with her . NOT even her new mining partner! By the way; any comments that imply that she claimjumped are being LIKED by her new mining partner this season. So if that don't spell it out for yall, then just keep on enjoying the boobie show. Cause apparently sex sells. Can't believe she is still on this show. And her new partner is a hottie and has a much more soothing voice. She should just be replaced with her dagnabbit. Rant over. Have a magnificent weekend folks. Dig on and dig with integrity!

[swizz]

Dude.... we've ripped her a new one to no end on this site... she gets no sympathy from the CP Club. Everyone here knows the story about Amanda, nothing new. It does piss me off that she's still on the show despite her relentless and blatant disregard for mining laws.

[All Things Old]

I like to follow the Dorris family. Rich is a machine. Dwayne is just fun to watch. The rest go just go away. I was surprised there was no Travis. There is a story there.

The show was pulled from TWC. Hopefully nobody picks it up and it can go back to the old quite days. I have a few claims in Park County and I look forward to collecting in peace and quite this summer. No drama needed.

Enjoyed the read.

[johnnybravo300]

My wife has some art at a shop in Salida where yolanda has her aqua jewelry. She and her hub have a few sons that help them. We've run into her a few times and she seems very sweet.

[Crusty]

Just turned on last night's show, so I haven't watched it yet, but it looks like there will be more developing between everyone's "not so favorite" cast member and her new partner. Sorry to see someone who seems so positive get sucked in to the BS.

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[Goldman]

So much for the show keepin the focus of the show on rocks! Miss drama queen is stirring it up again on her new parter [on the show}. Did yall she her latest facebook post?!!!!!

of all the irony, she is calling her a theif. The one with lawsuits is calling her partner the theif. I see her online saying her last partner/husband/mr.big hands stole her kids college funds and left her, never to be heard of again. And the partner before that from season one, I saw her on the local news defaming him because she had been having a love triangle. wTH is wrong with this woman. She belongs on lifetime channel. NOT on prospectors. Rich found amazing gemmy topaz yesterday on the show, but all people are talking about is the 4 pages she posted on her facebook how about her new partner is a thief. I saw this on facebook and seem like everyone in her past has something bad to say bout her. The only people supporting her are her fans cause they don't know her. rofl. lol https://www.facebook.com/KOAA/posts/1015186...=message_bubble


Can we vote to get her thievin tushy off the show? all say "I!"

[All Things Old]

Too bad the show has become its own worse enemy. Just need to clean up the characters. Last season might be a good thing for the show.

[johnnybravo300]

Wow I had no idea all this was going on! I need a TV. She really is a heart breaker huh? I thought her husband died of cancer but i guess not. Haha
I've seen some YouTube shows but nothing recent. Rich is the doctor. He's the man. The old guy with the hat. I wish he was my grandpa. I'd dig with him every day! Yolanda and her family are legit. The real deal.I always wondered why Amanda's " mining partner" just stands around all the time and never helps but I think it's cuz he can't stop staring at her long enough to get anything done. I have to admit I can see that. Crazy or not, she's pretty...but you wouldn't want to take her home to meet your momma!!

[Goldman]

hee hee He did die of cancer accordin to the show but that was husband number 3 or 4. [idid my research when i fouldn out i may have bought stolen gems from her] She's up to 5 i think, and maybe working on 6 . I heard she' partnering with a jewelry maker that attend lots of gem shows "Infuzing Elements" I think. since she is no longer with the female partner this season and is blacklisting her and trashin her for claimjumping. This new partner [current and not on the show] is a guy and i'm guessing will be a boyfriend or a husband like all the other partners. These guys don't learn. hell learn about her ways soon enough like all the other. Black widow heee heee -Men can't use proper judgement 'roud her cause they always like this---> So Johnny...... youd be correct. Don't bring her home to mama!

[Goldman]

Oh LORDY! My friend just sent me this meme that has been circulating on facebook and its pretty darn funny. You'd have to have seen the 1st episode to get it I guess There is definitely NO exxageration going on on that show [sarcasm]. heeeeheeee

[Crusty]

Facebook is blowing up

Oh LORDY! My friend just sent me this meme that has been circulating on facebook and its pretty darn funny. You'd have to have seen the 1st episode to get it I guess There is definitely NO exxageration going on on that show [sarcasm]. heeeeheeee

I laughed. No doubt it was staged for the drama. This is right after she fires in the air to let someone else nearby know she was there. Wonder where the bullet landed?

[Goldman]

Crusty, Quite a few people I see are calling her out today and of lately. I WISH the Cardwell's would tell the public bout her but I'm guessing for them to be on the show they had to sign that they could not talk about them winning the $100,000 plus lawsuit against miss Drama Digger digging all up on their claim. Karma finds it way though, might not affect her bank account.. maybe her love account. She may snag a lot of men but once they know her, they all run for the hills. Wheres Travis at. I'm sure he knows the truth. And "Agateheaad" made a great point cause I'm one of those dumbasses that bought lots of rose quartz among other stuff from her that she got from others claims.

[nate]

Things have very well, but poorly, digressed from the way it was in season 1. Seeing what these prospectors actually do. I think im going to start taking a go pro with me and crusty when we go diggin. Send it to the producers and say, WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS?

[swizz]

The show doesn't need any of this drama to be good. It doesn't need T&A, at least not hers please.
To the producers of this show: Please eliminate Amanda.
Mineral thefts, mineral trespassing, and claim jumping do not bode well in the mining community.... and we all know the story. This show plays extremely well without her. To continue airing her is a disservice to the mining community... on many levels.
The gig is up.

[Denise]

I agree with Chris! I also fully understand how seeing a pretty girl/hot dude digging will keep some folks watching and time has shown that sex does sell though. Since we are giving our opinions here, I want to say that I personally find it very sexy/appealing when I'm seeing folks working hard and they are DOING IT RIGHT!!!

[Auger]

I ignore the sex part as that's just a given ingredient in today's media. I think it is nice that the show illustrates that women are prospectors too.

With that said, I don't think they should have her on the show any more because first of all claim jumping is a sacrilege. Her still being on the show and the information quietly swept under the rug when it is a large public information lawsuit only rewards thievery and sets a bad example that as long as you pay people off you can do whatever the hell you want.

I think AAA should have to leave the show and go back to doing her own thing and The Weather Channel apologize for supporting them. Think of Subway and Jared. How quick were they to divorce him? If it were completely public Google search to see that this is simply public claim jumping on national television, every scumbag sleazeball might be inclined to look up that public info and go snatch other peoples' minerals.

As I see it, literally the only things stopping anyone from claim jumping is a conscience and the absence of the claim owner. That's it.

We don't need to encourage theft in any way.

[Goldman]

Well said Auger.

[swizz]

Last night's episode (S4 Episode 03) was great! No Amanda.... just nice processes and outstanding Aqua finds all around. Cardwells found an amazing Smokey point! Dorris' revealed a nice lil Amazonite pocket, some of those combos will clean up nice. Loved the work on Mt White too. Only thing I missed... was Rich and the Topaz. Otherwise, outstanding episode.

[Crusty]

Last night's episode (S4 Episode 03) was great! No Amanda.... just nice processes and outstanding Aqua finds all around. Cardwells found an amazing Smokey point! Dorris' revealed a nice lil Amazonite pocket, some of those combos will clean up nice. Loved the work on Mt White too. Only thing I missed... was Rich and the Topaz. Otherwise, outstanding episode.

DAMN Swizz, thanks for the spoilers

[swizz]

oops!
well... ya still gotta watch it to to take in all the gemmy goodness... and at least now you know that you don't have to dread another segment of Amanda's trespassing and stealing.