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CP
Ok folks, here is something we ALL need to be involved with!

Golddredger9 (Al) sent this info over and everyone needs to write, call, email their reps asap!
TELL THEM TO DEFEAT THIS PROPOSAL WITH A NO VOTE ON THEIR PART!
If passed it will COST EACH AND EVERY CITIZEN more than anyone can even realize today!!!

Thanks Al for doing your part with the PNTH group! AWESOME WORK FOLKS!!

Check it out everyone.......NOW!!

CP
russau
yep Dan this is only he begining of this line of thinking. the Dems want it to stop and buy our natural resorces from another country, china ,mexico,kalifornico,etc. and by getting the 1872 mining laws changed will only help facillitate this downward move for our country!and i thought i read that Bushs position on this was to strike it down but i cant find that artical that i was saving. as more candidates pop up,ive got to much research to do to keep my sanity at what ever level i can get to! i urge EVERY AMERICAN to do your reseach on your states legislators and the persidential candidates. ive been finding that most of them have enviromental groups supporting them! you know where thats going to take us. im now waiting on a question on Fred Thompsons position on his stance on the 1872 mining laws,enviromental issues. i found that Ron Paul has a long list of envirmental groups supporting him.to find out about a candidate just do a google search in their name and look over their site and ask them questions. youll be suprised if you havent been keeping up on these jerks!
GoldDredger9
Here is Information on the backers of HR 2262. WE have to fight this one Now.


Tribal Councils, Tribal members, Native organizations and others, call your Congressman now to support HR 2262 –
The Hardrock Mining and Reclamation Act of 2007. July 16, 2007 from http://www.mineralpolicy.org/
IMMEDIATE ACTION NEEDED ON THE OUTDATED 1872 MINING LAW Tribal Councils, Tribal members, Native organizations and others, call your Congressman now to support HR 2262 –
The Hardrock Mining and Reclamation Act of 2007. Earlier this year, Congressman Rahall of West Virginia again introduced legislation to reform the 1872 Mining Law.
This new effort represents a unique opportunity for this nation to overhaul this antiquated law from the 19th century that is completely inadequate for today’s industrial mining technology and scale. The House Sub-Committee on Energy and Mineral Resources will hold the first hearing specific to HR 2262 on July 26. We will need more co-sponsors for the bill by the 26th of July as well as in the upcoming months. American Indian and Alaska Natives have been disproportionately impacted in a variety of ways: Dispossession of land; destruction of sacred sites; damage or destruction of cultural and natural resources; loss of cultural life ways related to the boom/bust mining economies, with a legacy of polluted water resources; toxic and radiation poisoning and many more impacts. The law was originally written to encourage settlement of the American west, once American Indian and other impediments to American settlement had been forcibly removed or otherwise cleared. The law makes very little requirement for mine closure, clean up, environmental remediation, or restoration--allowing the mining industry to leave behind half a million abandoned mines. This new legislation will not fix the historic social, environmental and human rights violations and abuses in Indian Country as a result of unsustainable mineral extraction, but it will fix some of the other problems that are important to American Indian and Alaska Natives and others. The 1872 Mining Law also impacts Alaska federal lands. Congressman Rahall needs your help. An editorial from the May 28 Denver Post states much of the case to take action. Closing in on mining-law fix Colorado wasn't even a state and Leadville's great silver boom was still in the future when the nation's basic mining law was enacted in 1872. Colorado's been a state for more than a century and Leadville has boomed and busted more than once, but the General Mining Act, signed into law by President Ulysses S. Grant, is still on the books. It's way past time for an update. The law has allowed mining companies to extract an estimated $245 billion in metals without paying a dime to the taxpayers. Until a moratorium was imposed 13 years ago, mining companies could buy federal land for $5 an acre or less. (Thankfully, different rules - including royalties paid to the government - apply to coal mining and oil and natural gas extraction.) Rep. Nick Rahall, D-W.Va., wants to bring the law into the 21st century. Like a prospector stubbornly working an unpromising claim, Rayhall has introduced reform legislation every year since 1985. Now, it looks like he may finally strike pay dirt this year or next. The bill would impose an 8 percent royalty on the value of minerals extracted, close places like wilderness and roadless areas to mining, install additional environmental requirements and create a cleanup fund. That last provision would be vitally important to much of the West, which has an estimated 500,000 abandoned hardrock mines, many of which continue to ooze toxic waste (cyanide, lead, arsenic, mercury - that sort of thing) decades after they closed. In Colorado, there are at least 22,000 old mines, shafts and exploration holes. An 8 percent royalty could raise $100 million a year to start making a tiny dent in the $32 billion estimated cost of a total cleanup. The reason Rahall may be close to making a strike is that the ideal of repealing the law has gained some interesting supporters. The industry says it's willing to work on modernizing the bill. Predictably, it doesn't like an 8 percent royalty rate, even though prices for things like gold and uranium have soared in recent years. Even Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of mining-dependent Nevada signals he's flexible but that reform might not come until 2008. He dynamited previous reform plans. Mike Kowalski, CEO of big gold buyer Tiffany & Co., says his industry wants reform. "Ultimately, this cost will make it more expensive to produce jewelry, but it is the right thing to do," he wrote in a column recently published in a Las Vegas newspaper. We're looking forward to Congress erasing the General Mining Act of 1872 from the law books and moving it to the history books. In addition to the fixes stated in the Denver Post, the legislation would also provide for protection of Tribal sacred sites as well as additional protection for ground and surface waters. It will not fix all that has happened in Indian country and Alaska, but it will fix these two important environmental and cultural considerations for American Indian/Alaska Natives. Thus far, the below listed members of Congress have signed on as co-sponsors to HR 2262 – The Hardrock Mining and Reclamation Act of 2007.
Rep Capps, Lois [CA-23] - 6/19/2007
Rep Christensen, Donna M. [VI] - 5/24/2007
Rep Costa, Jim [CA-20] - 5/10/2007
Rep Gonzalez, Charles A. [TX-20] - 6/19/2007
Rep Grijalva, Raul M. [AZ-7] - 5/24/2007
Rep Hinchey, Maurice D. [NY-22] - 5/24/2007
Rep Honda, Michael M. [CA-15] - 6/19/2007
Rep Inslee, Jay [WA-1] - 5/24/2007
Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] - 6/19/2007
Rep Markey, Edward J. [MA-7] - 5/24/2007
Rep Miller, George [CA-7] - 5/24/2007
Rep Moran, James P. [VA-8] - 5/24/2007
Rep Stark, Fortney Pete [CA-13] - 6/19/2007
Rep Udall, Mark [CO-2] - 6/19/2007
Rep Waxman, Henry A. [CA-30] - 6/19/2007
More recent additions: Earl Blumenauer (OR), Dennis Kucinich (OH) Betty McCollum (MN), and Sander Levin (MI) First, Tribal members living in areas impacted by hardrock mining should call their Tribal Council Representatives and request that the Tribal Council pass a resolution supporting HR 2262 – The Hardrock Mining and Reclamation Act of 2007. A draft Tribal Council resolution is available from Robert Shimek, Indigenous Environmental Network, ienmining@igc.org, 218-751-4967 or Bonnie Gestring, Earthworks, bgestring@mineralpolicy.org, 406-549-7361. Tribal Councils should than send the finalized resolution to members of Congress. Second, Tribal members, Native organizations and everyone else who cares about environmentally and socially responsible hardrock mining should call their Congressional Representatives and ask them to co-sponsor HR 2262 – The Hardrock Mining and Reclamation Act of 2007. If your Representative has already signed on as a co-sponsor, call them anyway and thank them for their support as well as encourage them to make sure the provisions critical to American Indian/Alaska Natives stay in the Bill. For additional information, see The Earthworks mining reform home page at http://www.miningreform.org/ Earthworks’ brief explanation of the WHY behind each section, called Principles of Reform, is at www.mineralpolicy.org/PrinciplesOfReform.cfm. The full text of HR 2262 (112 pages): http://www.mineralpolicy.org/pubs/HR2262.pdf. [The “Protection of Special Places” section begins on page 24, Title III, p. 39 (J) is of notable interest for those mining locations prone to acid mine drainage.]

We need to write our Reps to vote no on this bill and tell them why.. This bill will stop all small scale prospecting and mining.

AL
Golddredger9
russau
please contact every representative you have quickly! goto: http://www.plp2.org/forum/showthread.php?p=856#post856
russau
please contact your state legislator about this issue.
Mineral Estate Grantee
Ladies/Gentlemen:

Though this letter pertains to the attempt last Session to interfere with the mineral estate trust property, it would answer the current, apparent attempt; though in actuality it may not actually affect our property being H.R. 699 pertains to the "legal and beneficial title" both being held by the United States, in contradistinction to the 1866 trust property where the "beneficial title" is held by qualifying American men or women.

I have been, previously, authorized to distribute the letter of Ron Gibson, the Vice President of the Southwestern Oregon Mining Association, responding to the threat H.R. 2262 posed to mining for the widest possible dissemination.

The images attached are of the letter sent to Oregon Senator Smith on January 18, 2008, with "CC:" to Oregon Congressman Walden regarding the H.R. 2262 matter currently at committee in the Senate as of January 24, 2008. The text from the O.R.C.ed files is included for convenient text access in the body of the email below.

Feel free to distribute to all who may be interested in understanding how fundamental the right to "mining" is and that the grant of 1866, made no provision for any continuing regulation authority over mining development, access, or occupation, those activities so-called "reasonably incident to" developing the mineral estate on the public domain.

Thorough review and study of the authorities contained in the letter show the absoluteness and far-reaching ramifications, the complete "unconditionability," of the grant of 1866, and how the law supporting it interposes itself successfully against any purported authority an agency of government might believe it wields to regulate "mining" activities. It is mind-boggling to see how far "we" have strayed from the simple law expressed in the grant:




russau
HR699 is sooooooo full of issues that are BAD for America, that i dont understand how a American legislator could possibly vote for this with a straight face! of course theyre party is telling them to do it! then why do we need this kind of representation? remeber this at the polls and call your representatives and voice your opinion!
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