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Crusty
post Apr 17 2016, 08:04 PM
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Any thoughts on this?

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post Apr 21 2016, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE (Crusty @ Apr 17 2016, 10:04 PM) *
Any thoughts on this?

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Despite being out there ~3 years, there's not a whole lot on it. The most I can find is on another forum where the designer uses poor grammar and hard-to-follow arguments to try and convince a bunch of skeptical old-timers. I'm not quite convinced. Data talks in the engineering world, and I can't find any performance data. That said, there's limited performance data on most matting.

I raise an eyebrow at statements like this: "A body at motion tends to stay at motion; this classic "truth" still is constant as the day is long." (quoted from the other forum)

The eyebrow raise comes from calling it a truth in quotes....this isn't a "truth", but rather Newton's first law of motion...

That said, I'm open to actual data or tests which could sway me.



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post Apr 21 2016, 03:01 PM
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Good point... In the absence of data, if the nest you have is clichés, that probably says all you need to know


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post Nov 24 2016, 05:05 PM
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OK time for FACTS, to dismiss the LACK of any REAL Fact Checking done here in Both of these statements.
1. Dream Mat has been sold since mid Feb this Year NOT ~3 YRS!
2. Since that time Its is being made in Australia & has 4 international distributors.
3. with over 1,000 mats sold in less than 9 months w/ out 1 return or complaint.

Go to my Prospectors Dream page on FB, see how;
*Gold Hog
*Gold Well
*Gold Cube
Owners are replacing their systems w/ Dream Mat.
Plus new Dream Mat for the Cube is being developed & larger size wash plant Dream Mat Grating is being developed. Plus other products on the way. All w/ NO paid magazine advertising!

So, not to be snippy, post like these w/ lack of data is irrelevant & don't effect the Dream Mat wave, just blinders in among yer self's.

* As for DATA the competitors have NO independent 3rd party engineering data. Only marketing data & data produced among themselves, which is the fox guarding the hen house.


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post Nov 25 2016, 07:23 AM
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Glad you found your way here to set us straight! :)

To be fair, Emac does both state what you did, that there is little data on most systems and that he's open to more information, so no one has blinders on.

Also, there are videos on YouTube that are 3 years old, so that's where that came from.

There is more information/videos out there on it now and it does look like it works pretty well. I see you've got posts on your FB page from Sept regarding dredge testing. I've been trying to find a solution for catching micron in my Keene sluice with my 2.5" dredge. Tried a few runs of GH matting and haven't been happy with the results.

Just a few suggestions for your website. Maybe link to your FB page and add more to the testimonials? Seems like you've come a long way since we posted this in April, but your website doesn't provide much information or links to let folks see your product in action.

Congrats on your success! I enjoyed reading your "about us" on your webpage :)

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My Uncle Dave is a disabled vet, who loves to sluice. But he has his days. After hearing him share his sorrow of not being able to go out a single time all season, I volunteered. "I'll go, I'll pack all the stuff down to the creek & back up & do all the digging!" So my 1st trip sluicing was about to be had. With the Gold Rush show in the height of its 1st season & gold at an all time high, I was excited! We got everything to the spot & I put the sluice in the water. Dave comes over & informs me the sluice is backwards! I'm a mechanical designer, what the heck! He pans and we find color. Wow all that in one pan of dirt. I do the math; more dirt over the sluice = more gold! I was a back hoe! I moved a 4 ft deep hole, by shovel length round! The 1st clean up. Dave told me to stop digging the sluice needs to be cleaned, full of black sand. So he walks me thru step by step. I start picking the sluice up with a bucket behind it so we don't loose the gold. I take the riffles out, swish in bucket. Try to pull the expanded metal out & it pops out & bounces down the creek as the carpet slides out and plops in the bucket 1/2 way! Yes he said some choice words. Defending my stupideness I said, "that's the hokiest thing I've ever seen, take the words engineering off the box!" Sad to say that day the math did not add up. The pan was not happy! over 1/2 bucket of cons, very little gold.

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Work less, Get all the gold! This will be hard for everyone to get used to. We want to move so much material, trying to catch flour amongst boulders! THE GOAL STAYS THE SAME. The retired disabled person cannot move a yard of dirt, but even a child can screen 5 pails of 1/4", 3/8" or 1/2" screen. So why move more dirt for less gold?

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I hope everyone will be able one day to see what happens to your pan when you use the Khrysos sluice we designed! Good luck & pray for nuggets!

 


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post Nov 29 2016, 06:41 AM
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All right, curiosity got the best of me and I ordered a 10" matt. Look forward to testing it in the field!


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post Dec 2 2016, 05:16 PM
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Looks interesting. Very sturdy. Can't wait to give it a whirl! Should fit right in my Angus.
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I can't wait to see how it retains fines, bizarre configuration but could be killer. Is it made from silicone or polyurethane? How will it be secured in the sluice box?
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Urethane. Very heavy duty!

Hoping it will be snug enough to just fit in the Angus, but I'll play with it before I take it out to be sure.

Since you can't make it out Monday I think I'll take it out to Arapahoe Bar. Never been there before and I won't have to work around the ice.
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post Dec 3 2016, 02:06 PM
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Well shit... My 10" Angus is 9 3/4. blink.gif

Guess I'll have to pull the highbanker off my Keene and use it.


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post Dec 5 2016, 10:27 AM
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I hope it works well for you. Are you going to run the Angus after the Dream mat to see if anything is missed?


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QUOTE (EMac @ Dec 5 2016, 10:27 AM) *
I hope it works well for you. Are you going to run the Angus after the Dream mat to see if anything is missed?

Think it is gonna be good! Yes, ran Angus behind it. There was 5-6 colors in the Angus, so I will continue to use that as a back up until I get a good feel for the dream mat setup and get it dialed in. Quick pan looks like it was a pretty good day! Ran 8-9 buckets. Not a lot of micron here, bit a decent amount of this stuff!
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post Dec 7 2016, 08:01 AM
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Initial use looks promising. I think I like it! I did run my Angus behind it and there was color in it, but I suspect it was a result of me playing with the angles and feed rate. Will continue to run the Angus in tandem until I get it dialed in.

Did a pretty good job of catching everything from fines to 20 mesh.
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Dream mat (in my Keene)and Angus
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Prospector Dream now has a sluice that is made for their mat. I got one and used it for the first time yesterday. Gotta say, I am a convert!!

First thing I did was give it the Swizz treatment and bed lined the slick plate and added a strip of shallow v mat (gave me a nice preview of a couple decent flecks).

Wanted to get some video, but with all the snow melt, the water was pretty cloudy. Will give it a go next time.

When I had the Dream Mat in my Keene with no slick plate, I got a fair amount of gold in my Angus I ran behind it to test what it was loosing. With the Dream Mat sluice there was only 5 fine specks in the Angus. Off to process my cons now, but a quick pan in the field appeared to reveal a lot of color!
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