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In Every Car, The Basics for the Vehicle
Redpaw
post Apr 18 2004, 10:54 PM
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10 Essential items to bring

1. Extra food and water.
Extra food means food that is not part of a planned meal or snack, food you do not expect to eat. So you won't be tempted to eat it except in case of emergency, it probably should not be one of your favorites. It does not have to be a large quantity. It probably will not keep you from starving, but it might give you some comfort as well as a few calories to burn to keep you warm. One or two high-energy sports bars might be a good choice. Always carry a full liter of water, and keep it full. Refill at every water source. The next source may be a long way off. Always keep some iodine in your emergency kit (as long as you are not allergic to it) whether or not you travel with a filter in your pack.

2. Extra clothing.
This, too, is gear you do not expect to use. A polypropylene or wool sweater is fine. Even better is a small Mylar space blanket, the kind that comes folded up in a little cellophane package about 2 inches by 4 inches. Add a couple of 30-gallon trash bags, 2 or 3 millimeters thick if you can find them. These are extremely compact, weigh practically nothing, and can be tucked into your emergency kit and forgotten until needed. Garbage bags make good rain and wind protection. They can also be used for gathering food, insulating, as fire-making material, for forming part of a shelter, or for melting snow.

3. Map or GPS unit
A topographic map is essential for any wilderness navigation. It also can be tucked inside your clothes for insulation or used to leave notes or directions addressed to potential rescuers. Most GPS systems will let you know where you are, just remember to keep the batteries charged.

4. Last Resort Compass.
Be sure you know how to use both a map and compass or they won't do you much good. If your compass is the type with a mirror, it can double as a signaling device.

5. LED Flashlight with Extra Batteries and Bulb.

The NEW LED Flashlights will continously run for hundreds of hours, I personally recommentd these before anything else.
A small AA-battery light is fine. Its most important use is for reading a map, and perhaps for signaling. You will probably find that if it is absolutely necessary to walk after dark, starlight alone provides enough light once your night vision adjusts and you are sure of your footing.

6. Sunglasses and sunscreen.
These might not be critical for wandering through the woods, but they are absolutely essential for survival in deserts, on snow, or in high mountains above timberline where the atmosphere is thin. Sunburn can lead to severe dehydration. The same conditions can cause snow blindness, a particularly painful, though usually temporary, condition that can occur within less than an hour's exposure, though the symptoms may not show up until eight hours later.

7. Matches in a waterproof container.
The wooden strike-anywhere variety is best. Just be sure to store them in such a way that they cannot rub against one another and light themselves. An airtight pill bottle or film canister will keep both oxygen and water out and just because you don't smoke does not mean you have an excuse not to carry a lighter. ( THINK FIRE )

8. Fire starter or candle.
In rain or wind a match will not stay lit long enough to ignite damp tinder. A candle, or even a small piece of candle at least a half-inch in diameter will give a more lasting flame. Better yet is fire starter, available at outfitting stores in several forms, from tablets or small blocks of paraffin or other flammable material to a gel that squeezes from a tube.

9. Survival Knife or Leatherman Tool.
One simple blade will do, though the models with scissors, saws, tweezers, screwdrivers, and other utility tools are handy for preparing tinder, preparing food, first aid, equipment repair, and almost any other task you can imagine.

10. First-aid kit.
Your kit should include a few alcohol swabs or moist towelettes, antibiotic ointment, aspirin or ibuprofen, Band-Aids, small tweezers, and scissors. Also include whatever prescription drugs you take regularly.

If you travel alone or carry the main kit for a group, take a kit that represents how you value your body, as there is nothing like putting a .69 cent bandaid on a $5.00 wound...never short yourself


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Coalbunny
post Apr 21 2004, 09:19 AM
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Redpaw, for shame! A GPS should be last resort and a good compass is always the first. You will find almost no errors in a good compass, where as a GPS is prone to inaccuracy. I have found myself to be several thousand miles away from home while standing in my driveway when using a GPS.

Besides, WTSHTF a GPS ain't gonna be all that handy. But a compass, you can't mess with that very easy!
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post Apr 21 2004, 10:51 AM
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90 percent of our college kids and young outdoor enthusiasts cannot read a compass.

But if it is shaped like a REMOTE for a TV they can show you a thing or two... :D laugh.gif :D laugh.gif

It is a Basic List, not all inclusive.
No warranty expressed or implied.
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post Apr 21 2004, 01:49 PM
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Hmmm. well, let me add to it some then.

1. A gun. ANY gun, so long as you know how to use it without hurting yourself. I don't care of you hurt they guy you're shooting at. After all, if you're shooting at him to begin with, his health and well being apparently isn't on the top of your list of priorities now is it? And that "him" can be a "she" as well. And it can be more than a person (hopefully it never comes to that). It can be a coyote, a dog, a mountain lion, a bear, or even (gulp!) a lawyer! huh.gif You MUST be able to defend yourself at all costs! ;)

2. SKILLS. This is the most important part of it all. Let's say you have all the tools needed to build a 5 story mansion. Great! Start building! Right? Uhhh, NO. Not it you have no idea what to do. IOW if you don't know what to do you can have all the tools and suplies in the whole wide world and it won't amount to anything. You MUST first attain the skills to use what you have. So now what? Well, you can buy a few books and start to learn, THAT'S WHAT!

It's so simple. I know, easier said than done. Well, there really is no other way. You can read read read and it really doesn't do much for ya. But you can go out and practice and there you learn a lot. Hand on learning always pays!

So now what? No idea what to learn? Well, that's easy to do. Get yourself a sheet of paper and a pencil (or pen, I don't care). Start writing about what you would expect to encounter as a problem is you're out in the middle of Lord knows where and no way back anytime soon. Let's see here....

1. gotta keep warm
2. gotta have water
3. gotta have yums
4. gotta have a place to sleep
5. may need to patch myself up for a bit
& 6. gotta let people know where I am

SIMPLE! Now that you have the basic needs down, detail it-

1. gotta keep warm
a. what am I going to do when it gets cold?
b. how am I going to make a fire?
c. IF I get any yums to munch on, how do I cook it?
d. can't I use the fire I make to tell people where I'm at?

2. gotta have water
a. I'm thirsy but can't find a Starbuck's anywhere near. Now what?
b. I'm dirty and stinky. How do I get cleaned up?
c. I have a few wounds and they need cleaned out bad.

3. gotta have yums
a. Come on man! I'M HUNGRY!

4. gotta have a place to sleep
a. I'm really tired of the sun/wind/rain/snow/ghollie monsters. How do I protect myself?
b. I just want a warm place to lay my head.

5. may need to patch myself up for a bit
a. Ok, so that cute snake with a baby ratttle taped to it's tail isn't very friendly. The darn thing bit me when I tried to play with it. Now what?
b. The USFS ranger was wrong. The big hairy cat really DOESN'T like me to pet it.
c. Oh man! I have to take a dump and I grabbed some green stuff and now my butts on fire! HEELLLLLP!
d. Ouch! I stepped on a cactus!
e. I poked myself with something, don't know what, but now I'm bleeding. WHat do I do now?
f. I was climbing some rocks and slipped. Now my leg hurts really really bad.

6. gotta let people know where I am
a. Maybe YOU can stay lost, but I gotta get home! (besides I do just fine getting lost at home, I don't need it out there!)
b. I'm hurt and scared and don't know what to do and want someone to help me.


WHEW! A few are more detailed than others, but that's essentially the direction we're going. Now we take that and we figure out what it TAKES to accomplish these. So here they are again, repeated but a bit more detail...

1. gotta keep warm Learn how to build and maintain a safe fire and camping cooking skills!

2. gotta have water Learn how to locate, retrieve, filter and prepare water for Consumption!

3. gotta have yums Learn what to eat and how to eat it, and learn trapping and hunting skills

4. gotta have a place to sleep Learn how to build shelter!

5. may need to patch myself up for a bit LEARN FIRST AID!

6. gotta let people know where I am Learn how to make communication aides. Fires, flags, smoke, kegger parties.... laugh.gif

That is you survival plan. Really easy to do. You just gotta go out and do it. Later I'll refer you to some excellent books on survival.

Gotta go, didn't sleep last night and still have to pester CP.... :P wub.gif


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post Apr 4 2005, 10:36 PM
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i would add a fresnal lens, 1 roll of red or orange surveyor's tape, for winter a roll of tp stuffed into a cofeecan and have 2 bottles of denatured alchol in bottles when you are stuck in the snow with your car pour the alchol in the coffee can with the t p it will keep you warm i would alos carry a AR-7 and a 9mm pistol :D
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post Apr 5 2005, 02:13 AM
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I'll add this much- a $5 surveyor's mest reflective vest. With a powerful spotlight you can see the refletive tape several miles away. I gave a number sometime back, but honestly I have no idea what the visibility range is. All I can say is that a lost person wearing that nech vest is far more visible (exponentially) than without. It's very space conservative, and it works great for any season.
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post Apr 5 2005, 10:04 AM
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well i see that you guys have never been in the desert! all you really need is a hammer and a desert tortus(turtle) if you get stuck or hurt or lost all you really need to do is hit the turtle on the head with your hammer and every cop wacoenviromentalist and newspaper reporter in the state will be there before you can get rid of the evidence!
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post Apr 5 2005, 08:11 PM
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Oh, and I hope that 90% of the 905 of college and HS students that can't use a compass GET LOST AND GET ET' BY BIGFOOT!!!!! :o :P

Russ, we'llhave to go out and have some turtle soup sometime. I hear they're having a special on it over in Death Valley.... wacko.gif ;)
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post Apr 6 2005, 05:20 AM
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actually im partial to fried turtle!
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post Apr 6 2005, 05:55 AM
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Russ, next time you're out this way, bring some of that, will you? I've had gator tail (and love it) but never had turtle. And I'll see if I can scare up some antelope meat.
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post Apr 6 2005, 12:24 PM
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i had some fried gator tail also and it was great as long as you ate it while it was still hot. once it started to cool off i didnt care for it. id like to try some rattlesnake.
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post Apr 6 2005, 04:32 PM
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I'll find some for ya Russ!
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post Apr 6 2005, 05:40 PM
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All you miners and you forgot the important stuff!!!

1. Pan
2. Shovel
3. Metal Detector

Jeez, do I have to think of everything? :D :D

I'm all packed up for Stanton. 5 days worth of rations and water, tent, sleepin bag, first aid kit, GPS, Laptop, two MD's, batteries, two backpacks, cooler, snake gaiters, bitekit, sunscreen, teefbrush, etc.
I even remembered the two most important things! A can opener and a Kahlua infused cigar to celebrate that 2 ton nugget I'm gonna find. Hmmm....should have a Chinnok on station to lift that puppy outta the hole...gotta work on that... :D :D :D :D

Hopefully I'll have some killer pics and video to post. See ya Tuesday!!!!


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