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Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Dec 25 2010, 05:02 PM

As does this organization attempt to do for prospectors/miners in Colorado, the South West Oregon Mining Association is an organized group of miners and others actively working to preserve and protect the mining heritage of South Western Oregon. This organization takes a proactive stance toward the promotion and protection of mining in Oregon elsewhere.

http://www.miningrights.org/about.html

Posted by: Mrs.CP Dec 26 2010, 11:24 AM

QUOTE (Mineral Estate Grantee @ Dec 25 2010, 04:02 PM) *
As does this organization attempt to do for prospectors/miners in Colorado, the South West Oregon Mining Association is an organized group of miners and others actively working to preserve and protect the mining heritage of South Western Oregon. This organization takes a proactive stance toward the promotion and protection of mining in Oregon elsewhere.

http://www.miningrights.org/about.html


smileywaving.gif Hi MEG, and thank you for the link. Working to preserve and protect the mining heritage is very important, but not just for one state though.... for all of AMERICA! emoticon-object-018.gif

So not to confuse anyone, I wanted to clarify something here a bit.

The ColoradoProspector site does more than "attempt" to help miners/prospectors. We have helped and continue to help many, and not just in Colorado, but also in many other states. Federal law applies for our national public land...No matter what state you're refering too. We teach all miners/prospectors (from any part of the country) the importance of knowing the laws on an individual basis, to impower them on how to enact upon their rights to mine. We feel thats not something an organization can do for them, as each individual must know for themselves as a bonafied miner/prospector in the field. ColoradoProspector's procative stance is to maintain an open forum where we as a collective can find the resources needed, and interact with others on the same interest. This is accomplished via the http://www.coloradoprospector.com/membership.html support/participation which helps keep this resource open for anyone to utilize in any state. ColoradoProspector club members are from states all over the country, and many of them are active claim owners and full time miners that love and utilize the free information we provide here.

If we all work together learning and knowing the laws, then the better understanding each person will have as an individual working in the field.

cool.gif Knowledge is power, especially on a personal basis.

Denise

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Dec 26 2010, 08:53 PM

Mrs.CP, I intended no disrespect.
I used “attempt” because what comes to mind with the information we share with others is that we can not force the infomration upon people...you know that adage "You can lead a horse to water, but can not make it drink". The best we can do is make an offer, the "attempt". In that way in those that accept it, we are working to preserve and protect the mining heritage.... for all of AMERICA!, as you said. The grant of the mineral estate is for all unappropriated public domain, transcending any local association. And it seems, I need to contact the Webmaster. It appears he may have omitted a word, "Oregon and elswhere."


Posted by: Mrs.CP Dec 27 2010, 10:54 AM

No disrespect taken MEG, the wording just sounded a little off to me so I wanted to clarify more about the CP site. smile.gif


QUOTE
And it seems, I need to contact the Webmaster. It appears he may have omitted a word, "Oregon and elswhere."


Oh sure....everyone always blames the webmasters! wink.gif laugh.gif Just make sure when you are telling him, that you spell elsewhere right. giggle.gif tongue.gif biggrin.gif


Have a Happy New Year Meg



Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Jan 2 2011, 09:09 PM

List of New resources on SWOMA's site
http://miningrights.org/

Posted by: Mrs.CP Jan 3 2011, 07:58 AM

Thanks Meg......I hope your adding the ColoradoProspector website to other forums as your doing other websites/forums here?
I didnt see the ColoradoProspector.com link presented on the SWOMA link page. After all, this is a great open resource for all to use, and thats what the internet is all about, sharing good information with others right.

Posted by: Mrs.CP Jan 8 2011, 06:51 AM

Thanks for getting the ColoradoProspector link added Meg! happy088.gif We have also added theirs to our prospecting links page. smile.gif

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Jan 27 2011, 10:27 PM

MASSIVE site update.

Need to clean up the clutter a bit, but lots of new stuff added today -

http://www.miningrights.org/

Law -
Mining Camps: A Study in American Frontier Government - 1885 (324 ppgs)
Mining Law for the Prospector, Miner & Engineer - 1911 (357 ppgs)
Mining Rights on the Public Domain - 1908 (600 ppgs)
Land Laws of the Mining Districts - 1884 (67 ppgs)
Digest of the Laws of Mines & Minerals (case law) - 1878 (473 ppgs)

Mining -
The Rogue River Valley Coal Fields - 1907 (article)
Mining Districts of the United States - 1912 (book)
Northwest Mines Handbook - 1918 (book)
The International Mines Handbook - 1922 (book)

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Mar 4 2011, 10:07 AM

Four NEW informational additions to MiningRights.org


SWOMA's Proposal To Josephine County On Mineral Sources Co-Ordination
http://www.miningrights.org/legal-news/CountyofJosephineCoordinationProposalMinerals.pdf

Josephine County Passes Resolution To Oppose Siskiyou Crest Monument
http://www.miningrights.org/legal-news/Monument-Resolution.pdf

Ron Gibson's 2008 Letter to Senator Gordon Smith, regarding the Act of 1866
http://www.miningrights.org/mining-law/ron-gibson-letter.pdf

Atkinson's Anti-Mining Legislation SB 765 May Be Dead [Up-date]
http://www.miningrights.org/legal-news/SB-765-Dead.html


www.miningrights.org

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Mar 13 2011, 09:07 AM

Up-dates to Mining Rights (dot) org

Here are the most recent additions to www.miningrights.org Front page, top left under 'Legal News' "The Mining Law: The Extent of Federal Authority Over Public Domain" and The road law is included in the same document - in downloadable PDF

Note: These were both given, by SWOMA VP Ron Gibson, to Josephine County sheriff Gil Gilbertson, County Commissioner Simon Hare and a few others that attended a private meeting March 10, 2011.


Also new -

Strategic & Critical Minerals in Oregon: A Guide for Prospectors - 1942
Quicksilver Prospects in the Butte Falls Quadrangle - 1949

Will be adding some old USGS Oregon maps showing mine locations soon

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Mar 22 2011, 01:20 PM

There has been quite a number of inquiries as to the SWOMA (Mining Rights (dot) org) site www.miningrights.org being down. It has been and is going through scheduling maintenance and up-grades for a day or so. The up-grades and such are being made to improve up-loading and downloading speeds of the content provided on the site. I’m told it should be back up today sometime. Your patients is appreciated.

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Apr 5 2011, 08:51 AM

New updates on Mining Rights.org

"Mine Dumps Are Property"
"Pertaining to Mining Districts and the Local Customs of Miners"

http://www.miningrights.org/mining-law/mining-laws.html


Posted by: ColoradoProspector Apr 5 2011, 03:00 PM

I've moved the above post over to the appropriate thread for their websites updates. Haven't had a chance to check the updates, will try to check on them later.

Yes mine dumps are part of the mines property, that has always been the case.
But yet there are many who will take material from a mines dump thinking it's a free for all. It's still mineral tresspass and a crime to steal minerals from any mines dumps or surface without the claim owners permission to take those samples or prospect.

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Apr 17 2011, 08:17 PM

Oregon Sheriff Draws Line in the Sand; Challenges the Authority of USFS in
Grant County

Quite recently, the South West Oregon Mining Association was able to
obtain a copy of a letter written by Grant County, Oregon Sherrif Glenn E.
Palmer addressed to Teresa Raaf who is a Supervisor with the United States
Forest Service in the Malheur National Forest.

In his letter of March 31st, 2011, Palmer addresses USFS's lack of
jurisdiction to engage in law enforcement within his county and states in
part that "your jurisdiction as I see it, is limited to the Federal
Building in John Day (Oregon)".

Read more -

http://miningrights.org/legal-news/Oregon-Sherrif-Draws-Line-In-The-Sand-Challenges-USFS-Authority.html


www.miningrights.org


Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Apr 22 2011, 09:39 PM

Sheriff puts undersheriff on leave
http://www.bluemountaineagle.com/free/sheriff-puts-undersheriff-on-leave/article_1071c1c8-6c46-11e0-aff3-001cc4c03286.html

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee May 8 2011, 12:28 PM

It has been brought to the attention of the people attending last Friday’s South West Oregon Mining Association meeting at Pottsville, where Josephine County Sheriff Gil Gilbertson was in attendance, it was witnessed in a Forest Service meeting in Grants Pass Oregon this last April, Kevin Johnson, area Mining Geologist told a group of about 60 +/- in attendance he had just returned from a meeting in Washington DC where mining claims and issues related were being discussed and that Posting of NO TRESPASS Notices found about mining claims are to be ignored and if anyone sees or hears of anyone prospecting or mining while out and about, they are to report back to him or Forest Service agent Karla Gallegos. Apparently Mineral Estate Grantees are presumed criminals by the Federal Agencies. The Mining Geologist was also said to have told the attendees they (the Forest Service) will be moving to remove mining incident tools from valid mining claims when weather permits…using force if need be.

Sheriff Gilbertson told the SWOMA meeting attendees, His attempts to get answers from the Forest Service have been met with “We don’t have to explain anything to you”. If you want information file a FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) request. Essentially telling him they are the authority and he is to bow to them when it comes to the Forest Lands issues. He also said, we are dealing with a monster, out of control and outside their authority to act lawfully.

Copy(s) of Sheriff Gilbertson’s letter(s) pertaining to the Forest Service contempt for his and other Sheriff’s authority should be found posted on www.miningrights.org shortly.

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee May 10 2011, 06:43 PM

Sheriff Gilbertson on KMED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBUbV2zaLb0

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee May 11 2011, 08:31 AM

http://www.miningrights.org/legal-news/Josephine-County-Sheriff-Gil-Gilbertson-CHallenges-USFS.html

Note: South West Oregon Mining Association Webmaster also linked up the Executive Summary document and is encouraging people to send it to THEIR local government in the hope that we can spread this.

You can use the following on the boards:

On May 5th, 2011, Josephine County Sheriff Gil Gilbertson issued a letter to the United States Forest Service similar to the one recently issued by Sheriff Palmer of Grant County, Oregon. In his letter, Gilbertson expressed utter disbelief that USFS told him to submit a FOIA request if he wanted any information pertaining to a recent legal complaint he (Gilbertson) received from a local miner regarding long standing harassment and other issues by USFS. The letter is the latest of several official correspondences between Gilbertson and the USFS after he had studied a copy of an executive summary titled "The Mining Law: The Extent of Federal Authority Over Public Domain", which was authored by the South West Oregon Mining Association (SWOMA).

In his most recent letter, Gilbertson throws down the gauntlet, stating in part "As the CLEO of this county, elected by the citizens, saddled with the expectation and responsibility to safeguard their rights, I fully intend to uphold the laws against any threat, inappropriate or unlawful actions against them."

Find out more at:

http://www.miningrights.org/

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee May 25 2011, 10:27 AM

Dangers of Head LAW Enforcement Officer (Sheriff) sell outs:
http://realitybloger.wordpress.com/2011/05/22/the-sheriff-who-sold-his-county/

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee May 30 2011, 04:59 AM

SWOMA Vice President Ron Gibson explains Land Patents; what they are and how to trace your property back to them: http://miningrights.org/legal-news/land-patents.html

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee May 30 2011, 10:01 PM

Legal News -

Hal Anthony on Sheriff Gilbertson's Letter

http://www.miningrights.org/legal-news/Hal-Anthony-Comments-on-Gilbertson.html



Mining Law Section -

"Oregon's First Mining Law: The Rules and Regulations of the Miners of
Waldo and Althouse (1851)"

"Ron Gibson on Patents"

"The Development of American Law (1889)"

http://miningrights.org/mining-law/mining-laws.html




Mining Information Section -

"Geology & Mineral Resources of Josephine County, Oregon"

"The Underground Gold Digger" - 1903 (good description of the early
operation of local quartz mines)

"Kerbyville: The Pioneer Gold Camp of Oregon" - 1903

"The Quartz Operators Handbook" - 1871 (book)


http://www.miningrights.org/mining/mining.html



Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Aug 22 2011, 12:32 PM

Behind The Woodshed talk show host Hal Anthony speaks to establishing Mining Districts. Start your listening about the 50 minute mark.
http://oraclebroadcasting.com/archives.php?stream=/Behind_The_Woodshed/Behind_The_Woodshed.2011-08-21_16k.mp3

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Sep 5 2011, 05:33 PM

Jefferson Mining District Formed Beyond Mere Hope Coordination
http://oraclebroadcasting.com/archives.php?stream=/Behind_The_Woodshed/Behind_The_Woodshed.2011-09-04_16k.mp3

Start your listening @ 08:35

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Sep 27 2011, 04:57 PM

http://www.icmj.com/article.php?id=1453&keywords=Mining_Districts:_A_Concept_Reborn

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Sep 27 2011, 07:52 PM

DMS:

Commencing at about 37° 59' 45” N. Lat., 123° 01' 16” W. Lon., known as Point Reyes; thence, Due East to a point at about 37° 59' 45” N. Lat., 118° 33” 45” W. Lon., North of Pizona; thence, Northward to a point at about 43° 55' 47” W. Lat., 118° 33” 45” W. Lon., North of Coyote Cr., and Malheur River confluence; thence, Westerly to a point about 43° 55' 47” N. Lat., 124° 08' 49” W. Lon., West of Goose Pasture; thence, Southerly along the coast to the point of beginning.


Posted by: russau Sep 28 2011, 04:36 AM

SALUTE!!!!!

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Oct 3 2011, 09:58 PM

Corrections:

Commencing at about 37° 59' 45” N. Lat., 123° 01' 16” W. Lon., known as Point Reyes; thence, Due East to a point at about 37° 59' 45” N. Lat., 118° 33' 45” W. Lon., North of Pizona; thence, Northward to a point at about 43° 55' 47” N. Lat., 118° 33' 45” W. Lon., North of Coyote Cr., and Malheur River confluence; thence, Westerly to a point about 43° 55' 47” N. Lat., 124° 08' 49” W. Lon., West of Goose Pasture; thence, Southerly along the coast to the point of beginning.


Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Oct 5 2011, 11:59 AM

http://www.usobserver.com/archive/sep-11/sheriff-this-land-is-our-land.html

See Gilbertson’s letter: http://www.usobserver.com/archive/sep-11/Gil-Federal-Jurisdiction.pdf





Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Oct 5 2011, 08:34 PM

If you'd like to sent a letter, email or phone Sheriff Gilbertson, here is the webpage with contact information at the bottom left: http://jocosheriff.us/

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Oct 7 2011, 12:53 PM

Make the calls and/or email your favorite Pro-America(n) talk radio show. Express your desire to have Sheriff Gilbertson on as a guest.

Swamp with emails and phone calls Talk Show Host Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, Lars Larson…RBN, GCN, Coasttocoast am, Oracle Broadcasting etc with a demand that this man get national attention he deserves. I have, you can too. It may take some of these national talk show host to see an on slot of request/demands. Put the call out to the other forums for miners to do the same. Go Viral. Lets make it happen.

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Oct 10 2011, 12:41 PM

How about it, anyone besides me attempting to get this sheriff some air time?

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Oct 11 2011, 08:21 PM

Mining District Proposed In Josephine County
http://kdrv.com/news/local/227386

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Oct 11 2011, 10:29 PM

Ricketts (1931, p. 28) defined a mining district as:

. . . a section of country usually designated by name, having described or understood

boundaries within which mineral is found and which is worked under rules and regulations

prescribed by the miners therein. There is no limit to its territorial extent and its boundaries

may be changed. . . . The organization of mining districts is entirely optional with the miners,

as there is no law requiring such organization.

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Oct 12 2011, 09:54 AM

http://www.miningrights.org


Posted by: russau Oct 12 2011, 05:33 PM

this is a very good site to do your research from. ive got it stored in my computor.

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Oct 13 2011, 10:17 AM

New on Mining Rights .org

Local Legal & Mining News -

The Formation of the Jefferson Mining District
Medford BLM Destroying Evidence of Southern Oregon Mining
Gilbertson: This Land is Our Land, Feds Have No Jurisdiction
Western State Sheriffs: USFS Law Enforcement Changes A Total Disregard For Sovereignty

More Mining News -
Senators and Congressmen Introduce Northern Arizona Mining Continuity Act


Mining Section -
Stamp Milling: A Treatise on Practical Stamp Milling & Stamp Mill Construction (1912)

Visit: www.miningrights.org

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Oct 14 2011, 08:55 AM

Western States Sheriffs: USFS LEO Rule Changes an Absolute Disregard for Sovereignty

http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/legal-news/WSSA_USFS_Position_Paper.pdf

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Oct 14 2011, 08:57 AM

The Sheriff: Powers and Responsibilities of Elected Peace Officers
http://jackmclamb.community.officelive.com/articles.aspx

Posted by: russau Oct 15 2011, 05:22 AM

now we just need to get all the sherifs from all the states interested in dredgeing! this could be costly!

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Oct 18 2011, 05:53 PM

New on Mining Rights .org
 
Mining Info Section -

Metalliferous Mineral Deposits of the Cascade Range in Oregon - 1938 (book)
The Economic Geological Resources of Oregon - 1912 (book)
Directors Report of the Oregon State Bureau of Mines (1913) (book)
 
The Ore Bin (the publication of DOGAMI, which includes reports on the status of mines and mining)
Complete volumes for 1939, 1940, 1941, 1942, 1943 and 1944

Visit: www.miningrights.org

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Oct 25 2011, 08:44 AM

Hal Anthony on the Jefferson Mining District
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNfYLKAfSfY

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Oct 28 2011, 09:35 AM

U.S. Forest Service (USFS) intimidating, and lying to prospectors - Non-Responsive to Citizens

http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/legal-news/US-Forest-Service-intimidating-and-lying.html

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Nov 5 2011, 12:59 PM

Executive Summary The Mining Law: The Extent of Federal Authority Over Public Domain
http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/exec.pdf

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Nov 15 2011, 02:40 PM

No better time to Study Up! If you do not know about your Property and Rights and how to protect them, rest assured, you will be looked upon as not having any.

The Mining Laws of Oregon(1902) - 54 ppgs

http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com//mining-law/The_mining_laws_of_Oregon_includes_all_t.pdf


Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Nov 18 2011, 10:44 AM

New on Mining Rights

Senator Rand Paul on Water & Surface Mining
Sheriffs Palmer & Mack Stand Tall For the Constitution
Alex Jones on the U.S. Parks Service

www.miningrights.org

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Dec 10 2011, 07:19 PM

Radio Talk Show Host Hal Anthony will be discussing a news article on the most recent conviction of miner Cliff Tracy for illegal mining in the second hour. This Sunday 12/11 on http://oraclebroadcasting.com/ 2:00 PM- 4:00 PM CST, Noon O'Clock Pacific - Behind the Woodshed w/ Hal Anthony


Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Dec 11 2011, 08:18 PM

If you missed or were unable to listen to Hal Anthony's discussion on Miner Cliff Tracy's recent conviction, here is an mp3 link:
http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/Behind_The_Woodshed/Behind_The_Woodshed.2011-12-11_16k.mp3

If you’re wanting to skip to the Tracy discussion, scroll to the half way mark
Note: Please be patient, it may take a few moments to load.

Note 2: For those new to the forum, a little back ground on Hal Anthony: Not only is He the Talk Show Host of Behind the Woodshed, but a Miner himself. Among many of his self-learned accomplishments, He has been studying/researching/implementing Mining Law and Property Rights for many years contributing extensively to the South West Oregon Mining Association Outreach and Education and in helping to create Jefferson Mining District.

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Dec 12 2011, 10:53 PM

Law of Possession of 1865 http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/mining-law/1865/1865.html
Mineral Grant of 1866 http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/mining-law/1866/1866-Mineral-Grant.html
Placer Act of 1870 http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/mining-law/1870/1870-Placer-Mining-Act.html
Act to Protect the Rights of Miners of 1871 http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/mining-law/1871/1871-Mining-Act.html
General Mining Act of 1872 http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/mining-law/1872/1872-Mining-Act.html

Posted by: russau Dec 13 2011, 06:59 AM

saved to my favorites! thankyou MEG!

Posted by: russau Dec 13 2011, 07:06 AM

this is a great list of referance material that i hope every miner would read and or atleast store and use as their referance source.ive got it all stored.

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Dec 13 2011, 10:23 AM

Mining Law & Mining Rights Learning Center

http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com//mining-law/mining-laws.html

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Dec 23 2011, 11:37 AM

For those looking for an authority figure to confirm whether or not a locator of a valuable mineral deposit claim has private property (notwithstanding the mining law states “shall have the exclusive right of possession and enjoyment of all the surface included within the lines of their locations” and court ruling “as good as though secured by patent”), addressing those that turned out for the Jefferson Mining District meeting 12/16/2011, Sheriff Gilbertson makes clear his research settles for him anyone asserting otherwise, is speaking contrary to law. You can hear this for yourselves:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYKiD4legsg&feature=related skip/scroll to 11:45 on time bar



Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Dec 28 2011, 07:08 PM

New at: http://www.miningrights.org

RS 2477 Access Validated By Custer County, Idaho
Hal Anthony on Public Land vs. Public Domain
Cassanelli says she will continue to support county and miners
Lawman Richard Mack Tells Sheriffs: You Can Fight NWO at County Level
Defazio Launches Attack on Galice and Grave Creeks

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Jan 4 2012, 02:38 PM

BLM records list the status of granted valuable mineral deposits as an administrative entries, i.e., leaseable mineral or saleable mineral, under the 1976 FLPMA.

So be ready for some trouble from the agencies over your claims, whether or not you use defective premade forms.

Most store-bought or provided forms that are filed as location notices have problems.
And each is different.

What you are filing is a Location Notice. The importance of this document can not be understated. The location notice is the evidence and title to the land claimed. Being title to the land claimed it is extremely important to state things correctly.

What store-bought forms do and what you have to avoid in the Notice is accepting obligations that are not part of the grant or anticipate entry under the 1976 FLPMA. Phrases such as "subject to state law" are tell-tale problems because there is no such requirement under the grant. There are state statutes but those must conform to the "laws of the United Sates" and really only pertain to how one establishes possessory title and exclusive possession under the mining law, 30 USC 26. The 1866 act is a law of the United States and congressional land disposal act and no state or agency can interfere. It was amended in 1870 to include placer deposits and again in 1872 to include all valuable mineral deposits, not merely those minerals expressed under the 1866 Act. This is not so for administrative entries. "mining claims" such as for Common Mineral Materials, 30 USC 612. The current "book store" forms appear inadequate for the specific purpose of the Mineral Estate Grantee.

You are not just making a "mineral claim". You are claiming a mineral deposit. There is a big difference, even though they all go through the formal requirements for making a claim guided by the 1872 Act.

The Location Notice is a notice of exclusive Claim of a mineral deposit which enjoys "as patent" rights. As such, by this you can readily see any obligation you volunteer in your Notice gives the Notice that you will accept a lesser estate subject to external or state or federal statutes or rules. Such a claim is not "as patent" and is subject to state and federal regulation, such as environmental impositions, bonds and reclamation.

You could take a Bookstore form as a model and then cut out all the servitudes, then add a couple lines accepting your mineral deposit located and granted in the Act of July 26, 1866... as amended by the Act of 1870, if for a placer deposit, pursuant to the Act of 1872.

You can get a copy of the 1866 Act at http://www.grantedright.com and look at The Law page. Print out HR 365 and the Hicks case for reference material to carry with you. The first paragraph of HR 365 has most of what you need for a Location Notice statement. You'll need to add the Legal Description describing or segregating the land to the notice. ..and the other requirements.

I don't want to make it sound complicated because it really isn't. The requirement though to stay true to the act of 1866 or as amended as the case may need, is required. The mineral disposal Acts are a simple but have far-reaching consequences which we enjoy today. Such as RIGHT of way access in Section 8. This means, if you are prospecting you have right to be in the public land and on the roads. Read the Hicks case for clarification. Notice he was on a "closed" road and had right to be there.

There is an open invitation every First Friday to the SWOMA meeting. Jefferson Mining District meeting to follow. We always go over a lot of stuff and people can get help too. A lot of help is on the fly but it seems to work out.

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Jan 17 2012, 10:17 PM

http://www.republicbroadcasting.org/?p=18906

Posted by: russau Jan 18 2012, 05:41 AM

HMMM? interesting notes/video!!

Posted by: Coalbunny Jan 18 2012, 07:01 PM

Man, he went totally psyyy...eyyyye...eyyyye...eyyyye...CHO!

WOW!

What department was that and when?

Posted by: swizz Jan 19 2012, 01:52 PM

sorry, but this is not real.
It was two officers pulling a prank: http://westvirginia.watchdog.org/3386/watchblog-police-need-watching-too/

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Jan 23 2012, 07:55 PM

http://portland.craigslist.org/yam/for/2809722691.html

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Jan 24 2012, 10:18 AM

Jefferson Mining District is actively looking to develop a mining archive library for the benefit of the miners inside the lines of its jurisdictions.

At this time, we are seeking donations of articles, books, maps, mining records, photographs and other information pertaining to mining, roads and related topics in the following areas:

Oregon: Curry, Coos, Josephine, Jackson, Klamath, Lake, Douglas, Lane, Deschutes, Crook and Harney Counties.

California: Del Norte, Siskiyou, Modoc, Humboldt, Trinity, Shasta, Lassen, Plumas, Tehama, Mendocino, Lake, Glenn, Colusa, Sutter, Tuba, Sierra, Nevada, Placer, El Dorado, Amador, Alpine, Calavaeras, Sacramento, Yolo, Napa and Sonoma Counties.

Nevada: Carson City, Storey, Douglas, Pershing and Lyon Counties.

Donations of these materials, in print or digital format, is not only much appreciated, but essential to help preserve and protect our mining rights. In particular, we are looking for old maps that clearly show old roads and trails, as well as records pertaining to individual mines and mining areas. We also welcome first hand accounts from the old timers who have witnessed the mining history in their area.

If you are a miner inside of our district, we would also like to encourage you to take an active role in the Jefferson Mining District inside your particular mining area by volunteering to get involved in our important work.

To donate digital information to Jefferson Mining District, please e-mail it to:

jeffersonminingarchive@gmail.com

To donate printed material, please mail it to:

Jefferson Mining District
Attn: Archive Work Group
PO Box 416
Sutherlin, Oregon 97479

Posted by: leonard Jan 24 2012, 11:21 AM

QUOTE (Mineral Estate Grantee @ Jan 24 2012, 09:18 AM) *
Jefferson Mining District
Attn: Archive Work Group
PO Box 416
Sutherlin, Oregon 97479


Dang!
I grew up and graduated from Sutherlin High in 1961. Go out on Plat I road and drive east about a mile and where the reservoir is and the road turns left is Leeper roard. Thats where I lived.
Leonard

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Jan 24 2012, 04:33 PM

http://dcpagold.com/DCPA.Gold%20Show%5B1%5D.pdf

Mining Law/Property Rights researcher, speaker and advocate Hal Anthony, and possibly Jefferson Mining District Chair Kerby Jackson will be there on Saturday to speak, addressing questions, comments and concerns.

Posted by: russau Jan 25 2012, 07:34 AM

i wish i lived closer! good luck with the show!

Posted by: Mrs.CP Jan 26 2012, 08:28 AM

Is this something the SWOMA is doing, or is this your own or Hal Anthony's claim?

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Jan 27 2012, 10:00 AM

Jefferson Mining District Establishes Mining Archive

http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/legal-news/Jefferson-Mining-District-Establishes-Mining-Archive.html



Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Jan 27 2012, 10:05 AM

QUOTE (Mineral Estate Grantee @ Jan 24 2012, 03:33 PM) *
http://dcpagold.com/DCPA.Gold%20Show%5B1%5D.pdf

Mining Law/Property Rights researcher, speaker and advocate Hal Anthony, and possibly Jefferson Mining District Chair Kerby Jackson will be there on Saturday to speak, addressing questions, comments and concerns.


I ask please consider bringing your own audio and/or video recorder. There is a whole lot of information to be covered and audio and/or video recordering will reduce the need of continued repeating of information and allow time to cover a great deal more... it will also save the pain of writers cramp.


Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Jan 27 2012, 07:46 PM

QUOTE (Mrs.CP @ Jan 26 2012, 07:28 AM) *
Is this something the SWOMA is doing, or is this your own or Hal Anthony's claim?


No to all of the above. This was an add I come across while looking over Portland Oregon craigslistings. But if the claims are on the creek I suspect they are, it has some major locatable mineral discovery history. A GREAT deal of prospecting/mining was done on this creek, and still is being done on the head waters of the main stem...and it has quite a number of forks before it finally empties into the Illinois river.


Posted by: Coalbunny Jan 28 2012, 04:39 AM

Another level of unprofessionalism. sadno.gif

Posted by: Coalbunny Jan 28 2012, 04:41 AM

Sounds like a good deal.

Posted by: Mrs.CP Jan 28 2012, 08:22 AM

My dad was a great police officer in Detroit for many years helping the community.
I am really tired of hearing people making the police look bad!

Like any facet in life, there are good and bad. Lets stop labeling because of a few bad eggs shall we. rolleyes.gif There are far more good cops out there than there are bad, and I for one am very thankful they are there to help if I ever need them.

Several weeks back MEG, you were telling us that the sheriff was the authority and then you post a link like this one with no explanation and a very confusing title. confused0082[1].gif I don't understand the significance to this link or thread.

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Feb 1 2012, 09:28 PM

New on Mining Rights . org

$3 Million in Gold Stolen from Siskiyou County Mining Display

BLM Resource Advisory Council to Meet Feb, 8th in Redding

Grizzly Peak Timber Sales Protested by Enviros

Enviros Allege that Nevada Claim Markers "Kill Millions of Birds"; BLM Employee Encourages Public to Trespass Claims

Park Ranger Tasers California Man for Walking Dog Off Leash

http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Feb 1 2012, 09:32 PM

http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/legal-news/nw-explosives-to-hold-blasting-class-inSW-Oregon.html

The South West Oregon Mining Association is hosting a blasting certification class in SW Oregon for North West Explosives Academy out of Eugene, Oregon. The two day class will be held in Grants Pass, Oregon on February 18th-19th, 2012. The course includes a one day classroom session, followed by an the field session that will be held at a working mine near Grants Pass using a pneumatic sink drill. The course is called "Commercial Explosives and Blasting Basics" and is ideally suited for miners, construction workers and others who wish to obtain their license from BATF.
The price of the two day class is $1250, but members of SWOMA will receive a $150 discount, reducing the price to $1100.

For more info., visit: NW Explosives Academy.


Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Feb 1 2012, 10:07 PM

A documentary showing how Forest Service road closures are destroying recreation opportunities, eliminating dispersed camping and hurting small towns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kUhLMi97dg&feature=youtu.be

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Feb 3 2012, 12:42 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2095535/Bank-Englands-glittering-stash-156BN-gold-bars-stored-canteen-London.html

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Feb 5 2012, 10:47 PM

http://cryingwolfmovie.com/

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Feb 5 2012, 10:53 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZJoCfgAEuE&feature=youtu.be

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Feb 10 2012, 09:10 AM

Two Oregon miners expose the illegal and repressive activity of USFS employees.

http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/legal-news/USFS-terror.html

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Feb 25 2012, 09:08 AM

Sheriff Mack's County Sheriff Project

"Peace Officers Uniting to Free America from State & Federal Tyranny"
"The Sheriff IS the Ultimate authority in the County!"
http://youtu.be/bLJgPuNAh60 "The President of the US CANNOT tell your Sheriff what to do!"

Appeal from Sheriff Richard Mack http://www.countysheriffproject.org/
"What would you do if you knew you had just one chance to save your family and country from complete and utter destruction? What would you do if you knew there was a lawful and peaceful way to restore the Constitution and its Bill of Rights as the supreme law of the land?
As a former peace officer and county sheriff, if I were to take the stand in court right this minute, and be sworn to tell the truth, I would, without any hesitation or ambiguity, testify to you and every American, that there is a solution, that there is in fact a way to secure liberty, protect ourselves and our families, and once again live in peace and freedom.

The solution is in your hands, it is within your own backyard, it is right in your own county. The solution is state sovereignty and each county acting in accordance with the principles established in the 10th Amendment. It's you working with your county sheriff and locally elected officials to stand up for the Bill of Rights and to stand against the out of control federal government and its agencies.

The bottom line answer is your county sheriff. Ultimately, he is the one who will decide what is and what is not enforced in your county. He has the authority and is oath bound duty to interpose himself on your behalf to protect you from all enemies, both foreign and domestic. He is the people's protector. "



Some of the Great presentations given at the 1st County Sheriff Project Conference below...
Richard Mack: The Untouchable Bill of Rights
http://youtu.be/n4ygEk7lvvg
Quote from Judge Roll: "Sheriff Mack is forced to choose between his oath or the statute."
(regarding Sheriff Mack's lawsuit against the Feds regarding the Brady Bill-which he WON)
http://youtu.be/s3hS8cNWdhg - This is the Answer, This is the Solution

Stewart Rhodes-Founder of Oath Keepers (Excellent speaker-there's no misunderstanding his words)
http://youtu.be/cY148rPm0DQ

Sheriff Dave Mattis (retired Big Horn County-Wyoming)
http://youtu.be/uSWZ9sGddg4
Started policy of Requiring ALL Federal enforcement actions be run thru the Sheriff in ADVANCE
and the US Atty and FBI AGREED that was proper procedure.

Steven Pratt - Bound by Oath to Support THIS Constitution
http://youtu.be/Hb7Or-f62jY
Resolution of 1780 (disposal of "Federal land" to the states) and more...
"By the Constitution only the State can create parks, forest reserves, wildlife refuges, monuments, etc...
The federal gov may hold NO land in a State for non-constitutional purposes."
Also briefly discusses Sheriffs meeting with FS regarding "authority" in Portland last month

Tom DeWeese - The Insidious Evil of Agenda 21-Control of ALL facets of the Economy
http://youtu.be/uVMwrTyX-bk

Nye County Nevada Sheriff Tony DeMeo
http://youtu.be/XTRvMo8Ksfg
Discusses how he handled jurisdictional disputes and transgressions with the BLM.

Larry Pratt Nullifying Gov that treats People Like their Property
(director of Gun Owners of America for over 30yrs)
http://youtu.be/68nG673XTfM
"When there's enough nullification of federal tomfoolery, then it will fall of its own weight.
But, it takes the guts that you all have to make it happen."

The Sheriff of ElPaso County Colorado (over 600,000 population-includes Colorado Springs)
has some rarely heard words from "law enforcement" in the last few minutes of the video below...
http://youtu.be/xiiFe2q8AxA#t=16m05s
(Link starts at the correct spot)

Tom Woods on Nullification
http://youtu.be/hxxJYbZktyQ

Sheriff Glenn Palmer (Grant County OR) "Defending the People he Serves"
http://youtu.be/Z_0Jm47Dyx8

Sheriff Gil Gilbertson (Josephine County OR)
http://youtu.be/QmQeJNG18vg

Joe Bannister - IRS and the Income tax
(former IRS CID Agent)
http://youtu.be/EhR-7gAjL5Q

Sheriff Jon Lopey (Siskiyou County-N. Calif.) - Protecting Property Rights
http://youtu.be/7hckriSCsd8

Sheriff Brad Rogers-Elkhart County Indiana
http://youtu.be/HKUBRPn-pqo
Protecting Dairy farmers by threatening FDA/Feds with arrest

More from Sheriff Mack
http://youtu.be/0piBqVxZpqI part 1 Feb 23 2012
http://youtu.be/mNMGQhQq_nU part 2 Feb 23 2012
http://youtu.be/zLEeVaNbbi0 Sheriff Mack on Judge Napolitano's FreedomWatch Show

Other presentations made at the 1st County Sheriff Project can be found below:
http://www.youtube.com/user/CountySheriffProject

http://www.countysheriffproject.org/

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Dont forget to pass it on....





Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Mar 25 2012, 09:31 AM

http://ppjg.me/2012/03/24/save-america-deport-an-environmentalist/

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Apr 18 2012, 09:33 AM

Change in BLM Maintenence Fees for Association Placer Claims
http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/legal-news/change-in-claim-maintence-fees.html

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Apr 18 2012, 09:54 PM

http://www.wnd.com/2012/04/obamas-secret-plan-to-seize-americans-land/

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Apr 22 2012, 10:50 PM

Radio talk show host speaks to the victory of Wallowa Whitman Travel Management Plan withdrawn.

http://www.oraclebroadcasting.com/archives.php?stream=/Behind_The_Woodshed/Behind_The_Woodshed.2012-04-22_16k.mp3

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Jun 25 2012, 07:38 PM

New on Mining Rights -

USFS Terror: USFS Fails To Learn Lesson in Placer County
Miner Dave Sues Agencies
NW Explosives Hold SW Oregon Blasting Class
Cassanelli Makes Good on Promise to Support Miners

See: http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Oct 9 2012, 12:58 PM

From here http://www.grantedright.com/ Jump to the interim website

And for Coordination Information
Help Protect Your Rights and Property
Request to join a Work Group to bring consistency to Agency public land management

http://ooglah.net/Jefferson_Mining_District.html

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Oct 29 2012, 11:38 PM

TomK's interview. At the beginning and then near the end again:
http://www.teapartymedia.net/20121028/we_the_people_radio_2012-10-28_2.mp3

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Nov 28 2012, 10:46 PM

THE PUBLIC DOMAIN. ITS HISTORTY, WITH STATISTICS,
http://www.books.google.com/books?id=wnFKAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=The+Public+Domain&hl=en&sa=X&ei=f_eJUObgIOjhiwL4p4DoAw&ved=0CFQQ6AEwBQ


Executive Summary
The Mining Law: The Extent of Federal Authority Over Public Domain

http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/exec.pdf

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Dec 23 2012, 07:22 PM

The workshop video in the link below discloses tricks and tactics of environmentalists and agencies to steal away your rights and properties...the agenda to close people out from the wealth of our lands.

Acting On Local Jurisdiction

"Doyel Shamley and others deserve credit for uncovering, studying, and acting upon information about federal jurisdiction. A resident of Apache County, Arizona, Shamley was able to get his county to pass two resolutions in which his county asserted its Constitutional right to start managing the forests in its area. You have every right to expect your county representatives to take similar measure to protect you and your county's rights and interests."

Go to http://www.defendruralamerica.com/DRA/ApacheCounty.html to read more and watch the full-length workshop video.

Posted by: russau Dec 24 2012, 05:21 AM

something else to read, "set up and sold out " by Holly Swenson is a real eye opener that i wish everyone would read! Holly was a died in the wool enviromentalist and beleived everything the wacos told her, UNTILL one her supiriors told her something that didnt sound right! she did some investigation and found out that everything they had been telling her was a lie! her book will wake up everyone to their dealings!!its a must read!

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Dec 24 2012, 10:29 PM

Executive Summary The Mining Law: The Extent of Federal Authority Over Public Domain
http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/exec.pdf

SHERIFF: This Land is Our Land, Feds Have No Jurisdiction!
http://www.usobserver.com/archive/sep-11/sheriff-this-land-is-our-land.html

Posted by: russau Dec 25 2012, 05:11 AM

well i hope this is ok to post this here. it is from the Jefferson mining district guys.http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/ this is a really good referance material list! it needs tobe stored in everyones computor for their own knowledge!

Posted by: ColoradoProspector Dec 25 2012, 08:52 AM

I've moved your post over to this thread Russ. Even though this same group told the Colorado Prospector club to take a flying leap off a tall cliff in 2005 whilst we were trying to help the Oregon prospectors, we still let their posts fly here as an example. Lately I see they are still following the leadership found here at the Colorado Prospector website and trying to make it appear that they are "leading prospectors" to the right information?!
Hmmm, odd since that is what this very forum was started for in 2003, for prospectors to gain a new view and find real information about the truth in prospecting/mining laws and agency's delegated authorities as writtien. Here you can form your own opinion and discuss the mining law.......AS IT'S ALWAYS BEEN SINCE 2003!

Sure hope the Colorado Prospector website link gets posted as many times at that site as this one gets REPEATEDLY POSTED HERE, I suspect it doesn't .....but we'll just keep piling them up in this thread.....it's so obvious that these attempts are more copy moves from a lead/idea they've gotten from here over the years and still want to take the traffic from us to make their "concept" appear new or that they've been the leader on this front of mining law and education to the people.
Doesn't it seem odd to others (especially those who've been here for years) that this group and their spokesperson never interacts with this forum community.........so why do they find it so important to post thier website here so often?!
If in fact this group from Oregon wished to work with everyone then I'd just have to think they'd be more willing to interact with the sites they feel it important to pass messages along to/through!

This has not been the case since late 2010 and this new group began posting/spamming other websites. 3 years later ........ Man this is gettin' old!

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Dec 25 2012, 06:48 PM

CP “ Even though this same group told the Colorado Prospector club to take a flying leap off a tall cliff in 2005 whilst we were trying to help the Oregon prospectors”


Which "same group" are you talking about? My contributions to this site have been independent of any group. That said, I am local to two mining entities which to my knowledge and since my participation didn't even know about Colorado Prospectors, let alone tell any one to take a flying leap. In fact, when I started to participate locally the association from which the mining district is born was down to 5 participants. Our participation locally was only because of John urging me to study the mining law to confirm unlawful imposition by agencies against miners. So we're almost outsiders to any group in the regard of your comment.
Early on it was not despite CP but because of the content found on CP I decided to allow my research, findings and writings posted on this site by John under the mineral estate grantee name; A status, more than a name, wholly unknown prior to my findings, that was not discussed or applied. I felt CP readers could benefit because of the good foundation set in the forum which I didn't find elsewhere. I felt comfortable to post here with your encouragement, as well. I was excited to see people with at least an idea of what they were dealing with. So to say I or John told you to jump off a cliff is completely incorrect. Though, I can't speak to something outside of my awareness that may have occurred.


CP “Lately I see they are still following the leadership found here at the Colorado Prospector website and trying to make it appear that they are "leading prospectors" to the right information?!”


Not sure where you get your information. And partly because you haven't identified the "same group" you attack us through. Where referring to us, there is no leadership. We post independent of any association, but in support of apparently valid information. There is a lot that can be said about two entities I associate with, if those are the target of your ire, and how much they have been subverted as they try to bring the mining law back to prominence, that any "leadership", of which we are not apart, is too busy working to fix the harm caused than to come to the CP site professing to be "leading prospectors". The two entities I associate with have two separate purposes. One, SWOMA, is Outreach and Education. And the other, Jefferson Mining District, JMD, is, essentially, a vessel for miners to use to advance the Cause of mineral estate grantees and their livelihood. These are not impositions of leadership or only for prospectors. In fact, I have been a principle contributor to the formation of Jefferson Mining District to advance the congressional mandate of Coordination. I don't know of anyone in those mining entities that have ever referred to CP as a source of authority or knowledge base or hiding the same. Most miners I know simply do not know of the existence of CP; A lot don't even have computers. And without taking away from what I saw in the information the CP site is offering, it has not formed the basis of any action taken by the mining entities I am associated with or helped to create. That said, and to evidence how little CP was known to anyone in those entities, John made a special effort to get the, then webmaster, to provide a link to Colorado Prospectors [link]. And this link survives despite the effort to destroy the website and JMD. This Link was suggested, and ours is only a suggestion not a decision to make about the content provided by the JMD site, because John and I felt that CP was a solid place for miners to get information and because the CP forum was receptive to the law that was being attacked in most other forums. If you notice Jefferson Mining District is strictly an information resource. There is no forum. And therefore there is no communication. In fact, it is a minimal place of interaction though a place for the District to post mining information. The CP link on the JMD website was there because we felt CP was a good site to send miners to supplement the content being created and offered on the JMD site. To my knowledge, nothing I contribute to either the now defunct SWOMA or current JMD site posted originated from CP. None of my research was even inspired by CP. What inspired me was that CP existed to help the miners understand what it is they have and better than any other forum at the time. And this notion that it is a good idea to spread information to other miners is why John posts to the CP forum. If you do not like that, then I wonder who it is actually becoming territorial about information and where ti comes from. CP certainly did not form the basis for my research or any of the things I've produced or use when helping miners in their various impositions of agency or judiciary that we should suffer such an attack or when posting new information from independent sources at the CP forum. I also don't understand how that is leading prospectors anywhere.


CP "Hmmm, odd since that is what this very forum was started for in 2003, for prospectors to gain a new view and find real information about the truth in prospecting/mining laws and agency's delegated authorities as writtien. Here you can form your own opinion and discuss the mining law.......AS IT'S ALWAYS BEEN SINCE 2003!”


I don't think we have ever posted anything to this forum which would stifle the creation of any opinion. As I have said, it is because we felt welcome that we continue to post at all. I'm certain that John didn't figure it would rub anyone the wrong way to post information which could be used to guide ones opinion. Right now there aren't many sources to link in any regard. And I'm curious how you think you could have my Executive Summary regarding jurisdiction responding the local sheriff’s request for such, posted on CP since 2003 when I just created it a couple years ago without any help from CP.


CP “Sure hope the Colorado Prospector website link gets posted as many times at that site as this one gets REPEATEDLY POSTED HERE, I suspect it doesn't .....but we'll just keep piling them up in this thread.....it's so obvious that these attempts are more copy moves from a lead/idea they've gotten from here over the years and still want to take the traffic from us to make their "concept" appear new or that they've been the leader on this front of mining law and education to the people.”


Your site is one of the small handful that is linked to (and has been almost from the creation of the SWOMA/Jefferson site) on its links page: http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/links.html
And maybe because you may have never visited the site, you did not see there is no way to reference CP more than has been done. The JMD site is not a forum. And I believe, where CP had pertinent information John would have linked CP through other forum posts elsewhere.


CP “Doesn't it seem odd to others (especially those who've been here for years) that this group and their spokesperson never interacts with this forum community.........so why do they find it so important to post thier website here so often?!
If in fact this group from Oregon wished to work with everyone then I'd just have to think they'd be more willing to interact with the sites they feel it important to pass messages along to/through!

This has not been the case since late 2010 and this new group began posting/spamming other websites. 3 years later ........ Man this is gettin' old!”


What's getting old CP is that you assume much that isn't. You mention a group without identifying it. You have created spokesperson that doesn't exist. The fact is, if you did mean Jefferson Mining District, "their website" happens to be a repository of mining information. The basis of the district was established from research I have done wholly independent of CP, and anyone or thing else for that matter. We do not own that website. We do not have any direct control on the content of that website. We communicate at CP to pass along the information. Where else would we do that? "This group" is who? I've just explained there are two different entities John and I are associated with that have different purposes. Have you misidentified these mining entities for another?
Have John and I told you to jump off of a cliff?
As to interacting, I have stopped interacting with all forums, in large part. Even after invitation. I do not have the time any longer. If I create some writing that John feels is important he posts that. But I have stopped interacting with the forums because time is not spent as well there than other places. A lot of the information that needs to be said is already posted. And where I have been vilified on some forums or have to contend with people that just won't read and think or maybe are just trolls and plants, I have more important matters to attend to than arguing with people. We have miners that are in serious trouble, beyond what the forums can hope to help. I have chosen to focus on these problems. And only where a technical clarity needs to be made to help miners understand better that will help them avoid a larger harm, I will decide to offer my observation. Otherwise, I have had to focus my time on judicial or agency matters. I'm sorry you need more interaction from me or John to validate our information or post from other sources. We provided the time we could interact, when we could. There just hasn't been the luxury to chat much recently. And it doesn't look like there will be a respite in the near future.
So I don't know where this leaves us. The mining law predates both of us for argument's sake. For my part, I've told John a long while back to stop posting to the forums completely. For my part, and John can decide differently, I have gotten tired of the whining and the lack of active participation in the trenches beyond the forums. But information must be passed on, and that is what John has been doing. With the real damage happening to miners in fact, I can't keep up with the forums to explain. We wish it were different. When the information is available for any one to find and figure out and I get grief, I have no energy to put to that. Especially when I'm using the very information to help miners, others condemn. There is just no time for chit chat, otherwise. I'm glad to hear that some people still do have time, but that is not my reality.
The fact of it is, despite your assumptions, or that we are surprised at your attitude, we held out in our mind that at least there would be two quality sources of information that would not convolute the mining law subject matter, the CP site and JMD. The only instruction from the JMD Assembly to the webmaster was to post as much mining law and related information as possible. The CP site was never referred to as a model. That you see some similarity is coincidence without a meaning, at best. I'd like to think any similarity is consistency with the mining law. No matter who posts information, if it is sourced from the law it will be expressed the same. I only write this much today because we valued your acceptance and the "relationship" of a sort built out of that acceptance of the information John was posting that I, in part, have created independent of any group, to further the mining law being a grant where I was getting flack in most all other places. We didn't get that Flack from SWOMA or JMD either which is where we base our larger efforts to advance the cause of the mineral estate grantee. It is no slight to you or to CP. Not sure why you take it that way.

Oh, and Merry Christmas to you all.
Hal and John, Mineral Estate Grantees.



Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee May 15 2013, 01:42 PM

Jefferson Mining District
May, 3, 2013


Notice and Demand to Cease and Desist.
For the Public Record, as Preparatory to and Requisite of Remedies, and for other purposes.


To all members of the Oregon State Legislature:
Senator President Peter Courtney, on behalf of the members of the Oregon Senate, 900 Court St. NE, Salem, Oregon 97301.
Delivered Certified Mail # 7011 1570 0000 5796 5112, return receipt requested.

Speaker of the House Tina Kotek, on behalf of the members of the Oregon House of Representatives, 900 Court St. NE, Salem, Oregon 97301. 503-986-1200.
Delivered Certified Mail # 7011 1570 0000 5796 5129, return receipt requested.

The Oregon Republic Party, on behalf of its members, 25375 SW Parkway Ave, Suite 200, Wilsonville, OR 97070. http://www.oregonrepublicanparty.org/
Delivered Certified Mail # 7011 1570 0000 5796 5136, return receipt requested.

To The Democratic Party of Oregon, on behalf of its members, 232 NE 9th Ave., Portland, OR 97232-2915. http://www.dpo.org/
Delivered Certified Mail # 7011 1570 0000 5796 5143, return receipt requested.

To The State of Oregon Office of the Legislative Counsel, on behalf of its members, 900 Court St. NE, S-101, Salem, Oregon 97301 - Phone: 503-986-1243.
Delivered Certified Mail # 7011 1570 0000 5796 5150, return receipt requested.

To The Oregon Bar Association, on behalf of its members, P.O. Box 231935 Tigard, OR, 16037 SW Upper Boones Ferry Rd, Tigard, OR. http://www.osbar.org/
Delivered Certified Mail # 7011 1570 0000 5796 5167, return receipt requested.


Greetings:

Jefferson Mining District is a mining district having governmental power and authority and special expertise privy to the unique subject matter of the mineral estate and related matters, such as minerals, water, land, and ingress and egress acknowledged by Congress, 30 U.S.C. § 22 and U.S.C. § 28, through prevailing federal legislative enactment, 30 U.S.C. § 22 to 54.

Jefferson Mining District is the largest mining district in America, the jurisdiction of which currently serving appropriators of the mineral estate and other Land and water disposal grantees directly covering 4 states including, entirely, the state of Oregon. Jefferson Mining District authority, jurisdiction, and cognizance extends to any issue adversely affecting miners or mining law related grantees, including but not limited to timber or agriculture, and to any interference in these such as is being attempted in any of the current legislation, even in its proposal, adversely affecting the mineral estate or granted water rights, ingress and egress or the peaceful possession of the same. Being the Mining Law, potentially, affects every citizen, Jefferson Mining District serves and responds on behalf of untold millions of Americans now and into the future.

This Notice and Demand to CEASE AND DESIST limits in no way the extent to the scope of the subject matter covered or by the causes and harms which are more fully discussed and of public record. This Notice and Demand does not limit any summary and plenary remedies available to any one but serves as the beginning of the lawful process necessary by the acts and omission to act of the various principles or those accessory, in an effort to arrest the irreparable and immeasurable harm to people in their property committed by the State of Oregon and other third party interest.

Based on the following and more completely the entire public record created in Comment Testimony and evidence, incorporated herein by this reference, available through the State of Oregon Legislative website, the Assembly of Jefferson Mining District demands the State and others directly or in accomplice CEASE AND DESIST any and all action towards bringing the Bills, not limited to HB 2248, HB 2259, HB 2269, HB 3251, HB 3303, HB 3337, HB 5014, HJR 32, or SB 12, SB 115, SB 370, SB 401, SB 425, SB 838, SB 839, SJM6, and if it is still under consideration SB 217, and any others that may have slipped though undetected, or those just recently found after committee hearing such as SB 425, HB 3337, or HB 5014 appropriations for the DOGAMI, bills adversely affecting the public and people in their Property, rights, and remedies with regard to such subject matter as Minerals, water, private property, or ingress and egress, into enactment. These sorts of Bills may be identified, though not singularly so, by the earmarks referenced in the Comment of JMD for SB 839 or those others which will interfere for the extensive list of reasons summarized throughout the Comment Testimony notices of Jefferson Mining District. These Comments have proven the State has no lawful power to interfere with congressional granted minerals, or water, or ingress and egress and may not regulate or tax the same. These Comment Testimony Notices have further proven or explained that an amenity such as Fish, that “investment in natural resources”, including fish habitat, or the funding for such, or any number of other amenity does not rise to a police power exigence sufficient to destroy granted property rights or provide authority or jurisdiction to the State to regulate, put into reservation, to tax, to interpose services, or impose on the taxpayers generally though creative accounting principles of private entities offering economic “best practices” which essentially are double booking scheme and artifice to defraud the public or the people of Oregon. The Comment Testimony have shown the State and those aiding and abetting its member legislators, is fabricating authorities to lawlessly insinuate the existence of authority or jurisdiction to regulate, tax, or impose fees but not the substance of the same. The Attorney General of the State of Oregon, a Bar member, has seen fit to commit fraud in covering up the lack of authority, jurisdiction, or lawful power as evidenced in the Comment-driven special proceedings meetings with the agencies ordered by the committee members regarding HB 2251 and HB 2248. On the Senate side, for instance, a complicit legislative committee chaired by Senator Dingfelder chose in willful and wanton even callous disregard of the State's lawful duties, obligations, and law to ignore the same to press an agenda in favor of third party special interests inimical to people and harming their property which having been done under Color of Authority is a felony crime in Oregon and federal law. But the abandonment of lawful purpose and reason didn't stop there. The agenda-driven members of the committee completely ignored Testimony as to the existing science showing the proposed legislation and the costs of its funding were not needed, replacing their opinion of hypothetical and imagined harms for that of competent science and real world experience.

The government principles being also members of organizations the affiliation of which without censure ratifies the harm done by its members aiding and abetting their illicit activity, whether or not felonious, this notice is to bring you into the knowledge that your members to your liability need to be arrested or your culpability attaches for contributing to the organized syndicate working in concert to put into affect the various violative acts against the people of Oregon and the public in general through the legislation whether or not fully identified due to the Bum's Rush nature of the mass of legislation this Session, apparently part of a premeditated strategy to overwhelm any one who would be adversely affected. Jefferson Mining District reminds you that any scheme or artifice used to adversely harm any one in their property, in particular under the color of authority, is felony under federal and state laws. Being no legislator, whether of Republican Party, Democratic Party, or Bar Association membership, or those assisting the Legislature acting as the Office of state imputes to the holder, by oath, or by usurpation under color without, may, reference ORS 164.075, [1],"(b) Cause damage to property" [2] adversely affecting private property rights and under color of authority, (h) "related to official duties, or by failing or refusing to perform an official duty", such as the self-executing duty to safeguard "against the encroachment or aggrandizement of one branch at the expense of the other” Buckley v. Valeo, 424 U.S. 1, 122 (1976), or, be found, [3], (i) inflicting "any other harm that would not benefit the actor", we advise that you bring your performance or refusal to perform into respect of the law and the property you are inflicting harm. Additionally we do not think it unsupported to reasonably believe the failure of each Branch to check the other to maintain a republican form representative government raises these offenses to a constitutional crisis; a republican form government Congress is duty-bound to guarantee.

Culpability will be either as a principal in direct action contributing to the harm, or as an accessory aiding and abetting the various ongoing violations of law, whether constitutional, such as to the Supremacy Clause, civil, or criminal, by the subject matter causes such as grants, contracts, or law and of the relative duties, obligations, and responsibilities, or elsewise not protecting producer class activities or property.

Despite these violations, the lack of fair hearing or the blatant disregard of due process notwithstanding, these bills sailed through committee for fast track treatment and approval with no check or balance evident and no apparent will do to so; The reason causing the necessity for this Notice and Demand to CEASE AND DESIST to immediately begin the process of remedy, whether for constitutional, such as the Supremacy Clause, civil, criminal, or other harm, not limited to, resort to the federal courts for right violations under color of authority and criminal arrest under the “Private Attorney General” provision therein or by 18 USC Chapter 96, and Title 42 - RACKETEER INFLUENCED AND CORRUPT ORGANIZATIONS, R.I.C.O., or others such as for the cause of unlawful takings.

Additionally, late breaking to our awareness is HB 5014, an appropriations bill for the DOGAMI. Being the Attorney General could not show any authority or jurisdiction in the Department to do what it has been doing in regards to valuable locatable mineral deposits, water, or control of land without State of Oregon possession, neither by its promoting of the Green Religion of Sustainable Development, as explained the SB 839 Testimony notice of Jefferson Mining District, or of public record, as can be seen from the Department websites, any funds appropriated to or created to be used by any department would be a misappropriation of public funds and a violation of the Oregon constitution, such as Article I, “Section 5. No money to be appropriated for religion. No money shall be drawn from the Treasury for the benefit of any religeous [sic], or theological institution, nor shall any money be appropriated for the payment of any religeous [sic] services in either house of the Legislative Assembly.—”. That until such time as those offending parts are cleaved from the department no funds shall be appropriated to DOGAMI. This would extend to any provisions the effort of any department or agency of state government sign and promote the praises the Sustainable Development, by any term it may be identified.

Furthermore, DOGAMI fraudulently promoted no opposition, rightfully questioned by Representative Whitsett in Committee, to HB 2259, when nothing could be further from the truth. A substantial part of the mining industry, and independent miners we know of each having an independent consent to be given, do oppose and do not consent the any of the legislation affecting in any way their congressional granted property, rights, or remedies. The prejudicially chaired committee ignored the opposition and the law passing the measure as if no prevailing opposition or prohibitory or preemptive condition in law existed, the fraud and criminal commission of the Attorney General notwithstanding.

This Notice and Demand to CEASE AND DESIST is to provide you notice and one last opportunity to stop and reverse the harm you as a principle violator, or as imputed to you by your members, or you as an accessory entity or private party, are causing, whether or not under color of authority, or where dealing in the mineral estate and adversely affecting a property holder of the same. In other words, under the rigors of the Mining Law grants, where adversely affecting the possessor of the mineral estate the violator is treated as a mere proprietor, private liability attaches notwithstanding any costume of authority, or otherwise. This private liability provides the firm foundation for future remedy by individual members of the Assembly or property owners at large adversely affected by your direct or indirect actions or no action where this too causes divestment, infringement, or interference of any kind in the property, title or things appurtenant. More succinctly, what you are doing or allowing to be done makes you privately liable.

You are hereby put on further notice and reminded that you represent or aid the representation of the constituents in your district or statewide, as well as the people of Oregon as a whole or by extension through the federal Mining Law individually, and those foreign to the state of Oregon though owning private property in the state, and to protect the same, and not any current agenda of perceived consensus legislation originating from special interest and non-representative “stakeholders” or “public/private partnerships”, not limited to those, involved in the Oregon Consensus programs centered in the Portland based School of law, Hatfield school of law, or of these bills promoted by the Governor, or the Attorney General, or the Treasurer, and any and all related concerns and agenda based programs or projects, such as those embracing Sustainable Development. Contrary to the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Oregon which require at least protection and security in and the peaceful possession of property, these Bills harm land owners and producers and their right to protect the same upon hypothetical and unproven even baseless causes. These Bills attempt to evade constitutional takings provisions as well, and being inimical to good order, fiscal responsibility, the expense of raiding the public trust and treasury through fund deception, as evidenced in SB 839 or HB 5014, and public peace. Oregon law provides no immunity to any one acting under Color of Authority to use that authority to commit crimes. Federal law provides other and similar notice. The nature of the mineral estate and the state trustee obligations to, attaching, in part, pursuant to the Oregon Admission Acts, or the private appropriation therefrom, strips any entity or person of all immunity where adversely affecting that title, 30 U.S.C. § 53. It is and will be a direct fiduciary breach and violation of your oath of office, where one is applicable, and, whether or not one is applicable, a criminal act personally, under Oregon law, ORS 164.075, to proceed with or allow the passage of legislation adversely affecting the property owners and producers whom are purposely left out of the “stakeholder” classification included on through artifice and deceptive method as was evidenced by the HB 217 testimony of the farmers stating they were not actually involved nor actually gave consent to the consensus claimed by the “Stakeholder” third party beneficiaries without right or title to the property infringed. This capacity to infringe also extends also to the Oregon Water Resources Department, the State of Oregon Attorney General committing no lesser frauds and felony in the Proceedings of HB 2259 and the misappropriation of any funds to that department not shown to have any lawful authority over what the Attorney General or the Department in false reliance promotes or claims. These failures of lawful authority and jurisdiction appear to extend across the breadth of the State of Oregon and to every Department not showing title to the property infringed. By the various Duty, fiduciary obligations, and responsibilities owed whether of office or member, you are authorized to use any and all means at your disposal to stop these proposed/pending or enacted legislative actions from proceeding. The various proposed legislation or any having already passed without notice or full disclosure, are truly immeasurable as to the scope of their harm. Being many of those adversely affected by these Bills, and apparently without any due process input otherwise than the color of authority property plunder, Jefferson Mining District is further giving notice that any failure to stop them will result in serious, costly, legal and political ramifications.

Moreover, and because the voice for such is beginning to be heard from them, given the guidance expressed in Kansas v. Colorado, 1907, though advocating a peaceful resolution, Jefferson Mining District can not determine for any particular grantee or condemn miners or other property owners resorting to self-defense and property protecting force, as is their inherent and grant acknowledging right, where faced with the State's dishonor of its responsibilities, obligations, and duties, or disregard of long-since settled law on the subject matter. We should not have to remind any body what miners have historically done when left without a remedy where their property and livelihood are threatened. This never resolves to a win-win situation.

Trying to render the whole of the mining law into a cogent response to a facial and unlawful takings in the form of the proposed bills, hobbled by the inadequate time provided to respond, a deprivation of substantial due process on matters of vested property and government trust relationships and obligations, being prejudiced further by the various legislative time constraints and political maneuverings imposed obstructing sufficient notice and opportunity to adequately respond on the important and myriad subject matters involved, We present this compilation of precedent law and application due diligence which prior committees or Legislative Council were duty-bound to perform prior to advancing ill-advised legislations which we require be extinguished for being inconsistent with existing federal and state laws and to avoid future litigation for committing unlawful takings.

By this Notice and Demand to Cease and Desist you are of knowledge of the wrongs and wrongs continuing which you have a responsibility to arrest, whether as a part or organ of the State, or as organizations the affiliation of which without censure of the wrong acting members ratifies the harm done in aiding and abetting their illicit activity, whether or not felonious and imputing liability.

Jefferson Mining District, on behalf of the Assembly, and any other recipients of the damage of your wrongs, demands you CEASE AND DESIST immediately advancing the bills or cease and desist aiding and abetting the enactment of the same or where enacted avoidance or face sure accountability.


Ron Gibson.
Interim Chairman, Jefferson Mining District.
dritecrg@hotmail.com 541 621-5548.

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Sep 6 2013, 08:30 AM

Plaintiffs:
Hal Anthony, Ron Gibson and Jefferson Mining District

Defendants:
Senator Alan Bates, Peter Courtney, Democratic Party of Oregon, Senator Jackie Dingfelder, Governor Kitzhaber, Tina Kotek, Oregon House of Representatives, Oregon Republic Party, Oregon Senate, Oregon State Bar Association, Attorney General Ellen F. Rosenblum and State of Oregon Office of the Legislative Counsel

Case Number: 1:2013cv01147

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/oregon/ordce/1:2013cv01147/112767/

Posted by: russau Sep 6 2013, 01:59 PM

Goodluck and Godspeed with a favorable outcome!

Posted by: swizz Sep 6 2013, 08:24 PM

Favorable outcome to what?
I go to the link and it's a court docket that states the plaintiffs and defendants names.
If I want to know anything about the case I have to have a "PACER" account.
I'd like to know about the case or complaint (something, anything?) but I'm not signing up for "PACER" to extract this information.

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Sep 8 2013, 04:11 PM

It's gone where no attorney dare take it...or dares go. Full disclosure coming soon.

Jefferson Mining District Meeting 9 / 20 / 2013
Time and Directions: http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/meetings.html


Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Jan 7 2014, 12:06 PM

Mining Law & Learning Center
http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/

Law of Possession of 1865
Mineral Grant of 1866
Placer Act of 1870
Act to Protect the Rights of Miners of 1871
General Mining Act of 1872
Oregon Water Law of 1899
Executive Order 10997
Doctrine & Law of Possessory Actions (22 pgs)
Digest of the Law of Mines & Minerals (1878) (480 pgs)
Manual of American Mining Law as Practiced In The Western States & Territories (1882)
Mining Rights in the Western States and Territories - 1903 (538 pgs)
Relations of the Government to Mining (Origins of Mining Law) - 1879 (80 pgs)
Mining Camps: A Study in American Frontier Government - 1885 (324 pgs)
Mining Law for the Prospector, Miner & Engineer - 1911 (357 pgs)
Mining Rights on the Public Domain - 1908 (600 pgs)
Land Laws of the Mining Districts - 1884 (67 pgs)
Digest of the Laws of Mines & Minerals (case law) - 1878 (473 pgs)
Ron Gibson's 2008 Letter to Senator Gordon Smith, the Act of 1866

http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com//mining-law/mining-laws.html


Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Feb 11 2014, 01:21 PM

2013 Oregon Legislative Activity of Jefferson Mining District
http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/Leg_Proceedings/JMD_2013_Legislative_Activity.html

Posted by: fenixsmom Feb 11 2014, 01:56 PM

Gentleman (I'm.assuming) this is looking a bit like a website pissing contest. Perhaps we can reserve any bashing to PM? Just the facts please. If we all support one another in knowledge of the laws, perhaps we can just focus on that instead of he said, she said. I'm diehard CP, but I'm willing to say "hold up!"! stop.gif

Posted by: fenixsmom Feb 11 2014, 02:00 PM

What did you post there? Please "dumb" that up a bit. Too much legal mumbo jumbo, a summary would be fantastic!

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Feb 19 2014, 08:49 PM

http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/

The use/implementation will be discussed at this Friday's JMD meeting: http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/meetings.html

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Aug 15 2014, 06:41 PM

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Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Sep 7 2014, 01:38 PM

Earlier on this week, Jefferson Mining District ( http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/ ) filed a 100+ page SB838 Injunction filing with the Article III court in Washington DC

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Oct 5 2014, 09:04 PM

KMED/Interview with Law Professor about the illegality of Administrative Law
Tomorrow (Monday) 10/6 @ 7:10am

Announced at 39:40 on the clock
10-03-14-FRIDAY-8AM
http://www.kmed.com/common/page.php?id=111

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Oct 7 2014, 04:20 AM

http://theconservativecitizen.com/2014/10/01/the-history-and-danger-of-administrative-law/

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Nov 19 2014, 12:11 PM

USFS Terror from Yesteryear

While it may appear that the United States Forest Service is ramping up its war against the miners, as the following letter written in 1910 by miners of the Swank Mining District near Liberty, Washington and addressed to then Secretary of the Interior, Richard Ballinger, crimes perpetuated by the United States Forest Service against miners date back to the establishment of their agency.

http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/legal-news/USFS-Terror-1909.html

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Nov 27 2014, 02:06 PM

http://www.grantedright.com/The_Law.html

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Feb 18 2015, 12:48 AM

Later this week Jefferson Mining District's Interim Chairman Ron Gibson, and Mining Law Researcher Hal Anthony are set to do a 1 hour interviewed by the Host of a Talk Radio show. The depth of information to be disclosed has not been known, but by a small number of people. There's talk of possible links between JMD's suit and Oregon's Governor resignation. Time of interview and station will be posted the evening before. For those not within station broadcast range, this interview can be heard over the internet aswell.

Also, Jefferson Mining District's monthly meeting is this coming Friday (02/20). For meeting Time, Location and Directions: http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/meetings.html

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Feb 18 2015, 10:20 PM

Thursday (02/19) KMED http://www.kmed.com/ Show will get underway shortly after 8am

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee Mar 31 2015, 10:36 AM

From: http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/

The Power To Save The People Of Western Counties

Government to Government Coordination

Used to Identify Agencies Harms

Congressman Walden Identifies Harms
http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/Walden_Pena_Letter_2014_08_25--GW_ltr_USFS_R6--BMFPR.pdf

Jefferson Mining District Offers Law-based Solutions
http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/letter_to_pena_12_%202014refWalden.pdf

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee May 25 2015, 09:39 PM

Jefferson Mining District; Mem O' Law 1

http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/BoL/Memorandum_of_Law_51815.pdf

Posted by: Mineral Estate Grantee May 26 2015, 12:10 PM

Exposing More Fore$t $ervice Fraud Government Created Di$a$ter

Fire Map Posted on the website http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/ left side:

Exposing More Fore$t $ervice Fraud Government Created Di$a$ter; For FEMA Emergency $$$ & Land Control
Fed$ To Blame ACT OF GOD To Cover Agency Fore$t Mi$management contrary to principle Fore$t $ervice E$tablishment, 16 USC 475

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