To cut or not to cut? III, lapidary shop dispute |
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To cut or not to cut? III, lapidary shop dispute |
  Nov 6 2014, 02:16 PM
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 Master Mucker!  Group: Admin Posts: 7,187 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 4  |
Ok, here is a very cool specimen from Colorado. It has been named the "Monster Mash" as it contains, Amazonite, Smokey Quartz and Fluorites all mashed into this one specimen. Problem is that the left side of the specimen has a seam that might break away. Most of the crystals are broken on that side, but it does have a nice piece of Amazonite and some small Fluorites.
 What would you do with this specimen.......make your choice above and let us know why? Pictures of the specimen at hand....
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Nov 6 2014, 02:55 PM
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 Master Mucker! Group: Members Posts: 1,301 Joined: 17-February 12 From: Central CO Member No.: 41,357 |
It's a great piece as it is.
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Nov 6 2014, 03:11 PM
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 Rock Bar! Group: Members Posts: 730 Joined: 6-July 14 From: Grant, CO Member No.: 117,890 |
What Caveman said - lol, leave it alone! Ok, I got some flaws on one side, you don't see me asking to hack at it or saw it -
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Nov 6 2014, 03:14 PM
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Master Mucker! Group: Admin Posts: 7,187 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 4 |
You cracked me up Colin!
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Nov 6 2014, 04:34 PM
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 Master Mucker! Group: Members Posts: 2,430 Joined: 6-June 13 From: Falcon, CO Member No.: 82,915 |
I'm in the bigger is better camp, so I'd keep it as is.
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Nov 6 2014, 06:52 PM
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 Rock Bar! Group: Members Posts: 898 Joined: 9-January 14 From: Denver, CO Member No.: 116,265 |
Based on what I have been learning about aesthetics when dealing with mineral specimens, I would trim off the upper left 1/3 of the piece(pic 1), and likely trim the right and bottom parts into 2 specimens. Most collectors don't want a bunch of "excess" hanging out around the main specimen that you want them to focus on. I'm sure my friend at the mineral cleaning lab would agree.
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Nov 7 2014, 12:48 PM
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 Master Mucker! Group: Admin Posts: 4,149 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 3 |
This piece has been hanging around for a long time and I think needs to have some work done on it. There are still some dandy crystals on the piece but too many others have been dinked and busted.
When the pics are enlarged you can see the nice small fluorites in stacks around the amazonite, but the really sweet fluorite that's nearly impossible to see is visible in the second pic towards the lower center of the piece in a dark pocket hole...it's probably 3/8-1/2" and deep purple. As Mike said, the aesthetics can really make a huge difference in the final presentation of the specimen. I'm hoping that a little work will enhance this piece and end up with much more pleasing piece although it will be a bit smaller.  On this piece there does happen to be a fracture already on it that may be to our advantage for this purpose. I voted to whack it with a hammer  OK "lightly" but just a tap or two in the right direction should shave or knock off the left side. Hopefully without damaging any of the better pieces still on the matrix.Then it still may need a little trimming on a saw as well for more finite trimming at places...maybe separated into two as Mike said. I'll try to shoot a vid of the process to show what we'll do although Denise probably won't help with the "whack" part. I told her the rock pick is made for whackin' rocks. 
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Nov 7 2014, 01:05 PM
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 Moderator Group: Members Posts: 4,459 Joined: 25-August 09 From: way on up thar Member No.: 6,983 |
I voted light hammer and agree based on what you said that a whack and trim would be best.
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Nov 10 2014, 08:49 AM
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Master Mucker! Group: Admin Posts: 7,187 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 4 |
This is also the specimen featured on the homepage this month.
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Nov 10 2014, 10:46 AM
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 Master Mucker! Group: Members Posts: 1,282 Joined: 13-January 14 From: Lakewood, Colorado Member No.: 116,305 |
I was under the impression that a plate can more valuable in it's natural state. I'm genuinely asking if it's true, not meant as an accusation.
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Nov 10 2014, 11:00 AM
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Master Mucker! Group: Admin Posts: 7,187 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 4 |
Great question Jessie, it definitely does! This piece would be more classified as a hand sized specimen though. As with any specimen or plate, they can sell better if not glued or repaired but they also look for how appealing it looks from all angles, so sometimes trimming makes it worth more.
 All depends on the piece I think. As much as I dislike doing anything to this piece, I see the reasons for altering it a bit......just not sure about the pick tap.......if it goes well though, the piece is still in it's natural state. 
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Nov 10 2014, 11:12 AM
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Moderator Group: Members Posts: 4,459 Joined: 25-August 09 From: way on up thar Member No.: 6,983 |
almost like..... "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush"
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Mar 3 2015, 01:52 PM
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Observer Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 24-February 15 Member No.: 120,171 |
I wouldn't change a thing! The more natural the better.
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 Mar 3 2015, 02:01 PM
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Observer Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 2-March 15 Member No.: 120,202 |
Save the rock! Leave the cutting to Nature and tasteless rich folks!
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Mar 3 2015, 03:07 PM
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Rock Bar! Group: Members Posts: 898 Joined: 9-January 14 From: Denver, CO Member No.: 116,265 |
QUOTE (Wilma @ Mar 3 2015, 12:52 PM)  I wouldn't change a thing! The more natural the better. QUOTE (XerxesXerox @ Mar 3 2015, 01:01 PM) Save the rock! Leave the cutting to Nature and tasteless rich folks! Welcome to the forums Wilma and XerxesXerox!  I like the natural look myself. Some of those "rich folks" are willing to pay good money for a well trimmed and cleaned mineral specimen.  Bunches of info on the forums here. If you have any questions feel free to ask. -Mike -------------------- |
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