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POINT BAR gold placer claim for sale, Location...location...location...
ASTROBLEME
post Mar 31 2017, 07:57 PM
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Hello members and visitors;

My family is selling our gold mining claims that are on the Arkansas River in an effort to direct more time to working our diamond mines west of Fort Collins. This offer is for the POINT BAR PLACER mining claim. It surrounds the public "Point Barr" recreational area that is a very popular recreational prospecting site being published in GPAA, BLM and many other prospecting venues.

I was born downstream of this deposit and grew up prospecting the Arkansas River between Salida and Canon City, Colorado. There is a very rich history of this area and my family shares my passion for mining. I remember a couple of guys that worked the open public lands when gold was $35 per troy ounce. They spent their summers fishing and mining and said they paid for their college tuition. Even to this day, LOTS of people still work the gravels near our POINT BAR in the public mining areas.

As a teen, I was interested in what created the swirling whirlpool holes that were bored into bedrock in that area. The holes are numerous and those that were very deep and had some filling from trash by the visiting public along with a sampling of the area's wildlife that got trapped. The pop bottles down hole had a good deposit value but the snakes freaked me out! But now I know how those holes can trap gold and I've tried to get to the bottom of my first target, but I still haven't cleared that pothole. There are many other potholes that haven't even been started to be worked on.

We are asking $20,000.00 US funds. This sales offer is valid through midnight May 1st, 2017.

Please direct your inquiries to;

johnny.tonko@tonkomining.com

Sincerely,

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post Apr 1 2017, 07:49 AM
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great looking claim and story to go with it! GLWS!


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post Apr 1 2017, 11:05 PM
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For clarification, the claim we are selling is POINT BAR PLACER Serial # CMC278382. I accidentally posted a map of an older configuration of the the claim boundaries that carried serial number of CMC277738. We had an opportunity to stake more of the upstream virgin grounds and keep a contiguous reach of the river channel through the new claim staking completed the following year. This new configuration eliminated the downstream reach that had previously mined lands.

The map below is the correct map for the claim we are offering. Any questions or need for further clarification, please contact me at;

johnny.tonko@tonkomining.com

Please accept my my apologies for the confusion.

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post Apr 2 2017, 08:03 AM
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Just curious why you'd include all the lower section if it is excluded. Assuming the upstream is claimed so you couldn't go in that direction?

Just a random question to help understand claiming rationale. Thanks!


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post Apr 2 2017, 06:31 PM
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Hi Crusty,

The open lands for mining within the placer claim boundaries were forced to shift around during the first few moths after we made the original claim by the action of mining laws. That isn't too unusual in highly developed areas since right-of-ways for Federal Aid Highways, railroads, county roads, power lines, trails, campgrounds, and miscellaneous public withdrawals are all part of the influence for final mineral rights claim boundaries that need to be sorted out. BLM didn't even know where their recreational Point Barr boundaries were for many months after I advised them that their Master Title Plats were in error! jawdrop.gif They eventually came upon the original map of their withdrawal after my intervention. Then we took advantage of the opportunity to claim the virgin lands upstream and around the southern corner on better ground by staking out the new legal boundary and clearing out all illegal claims that were laid out over our interests. research.gif

There are many withdrawals, exchanges and leases presently going on in the Arkansas River canyon between the all managing agencies and private interests. This further complicates mineral ownership interests and our Point Bar Placer area is a good example of how complex the ownership matters can be. That is why we are asking $20,000.00 for this mining claim, having the historical and present day significance, already legally settled out. If one were to consider the rare occurrence of the numerous potholes occurring on the property, then the value would be much higher. This offering is at a favorable rate, exclusive to club members and website visitors but only until midnight May 1st, 2017.

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post Apr 9 2017, 05:03 PM
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Some folks have been asking what pothole gold deposits are all about. So in an effort to make the information available to all those interested, here's a link that publishes (for free) some of the details of the Conquistadors gold mining activities in the present day are north of Yuma, Arizona. These were some of the richest gold placers in the southwest USA and predate the Sutter's Mill discovery that brought the gold rush into the present day California by nearly 3/4 of a century!

Tales of Lost Treasures

I've spent many, many decades on the Arkansas River and never came across any other pothole formations other than what I've claimed in this offering. It is all about location, location, location...

Any questions or need for further clarification, please contact me directly at;

johnny.tonko@tonkomining.com

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post Jul 11 2017, 04:27 PM
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Opportunity is knocking...

Having sold our Rapid Placer, Red Rocks Placer and Red Rocks Placer 2 mining claims located on the Arkansas River so quickly, my family thought it would be proper to re-open our offering for those that would like to acquire this property.

We will accept the previous terms through midnight July 31, 2017. As always, we do consider offers and are willing to answer any questions you may have.

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"Some day this crater is going to be a greatly talked about place, and if the above credit is due, as is certainly the case, I would like to have it generally known for the sake of the children." Daniel Moreau Barringer 2/1/1912 in a letter about the Barringer Meteorite Crater, Arizona USA
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post Jul 28 2017, 07:23 PM
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Everyone,

The issue of purchasing this claim so close to the date for the assessment work required to be performed under 30 U.S.C. Sec. 28 along with a statement that it is the intention of the owner to hold the claim, and along with claim maintenance fees to be paid on or before September 1, 2017 as required by the Department of Interior is a concern.

Please understand that we have worked with previous parties that purchased the Rapid Placer Claim, the Red Rocks #1 and #2 mining claims along with the state, county and federal agencies to meet the requirements to transfer the claim(s) in a timely manner.

We will also work with the buyers to assure proper transfer of ownership if the deal can be settled by the closing date.

Sincerely,

Johnny Tonko
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Tonko Mining Company Inc.






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post Aug 1 2017, 12:15 PM
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Thanks to all those that expressed interest but the extended time limit on our offer has now expired.

Sincerely,

Johnny Tonko
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Tonko Mining Company, Inc.


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post Aug 3 2017, 08:14 PM
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Club Members and Visitors,

Due to continued interest in this offering, thumbsupsmileyanim.gif my family will reopen the sales window and share some additional information on the offering. My family has an active dredging permit for the claim but since I've recently retired from a state government scientist/researcher position, I am now focusing my talents on diamond mining upon my company's claims in the Stateline District. This is the reason for offering the gold placer claims on the Arkansas River and this is the last of our 4 claims as the 3 others have already sold to CP members.

I was born near the Arkansas River in Canyon City just downstream from the Royal Gorge. My father was an avid fisherman, hunter and trapper along the river for decades and I came across the numerous potholes as a kid while on one of our family trips fishing. Since then, I've always been intrigued by them and what gold might be found on the bottom of the tubular swirls cut into the bedrock. I know of no other potholes on the river outside of my claim boundaries and of great interest is the fact that the narrowest width anywhere along the river occurs on the claim as well. I've made an attempt at getting to the bottom of one of the potholes that I call #1 (photo posted earlier in the thread) but haven't yet succeeded as the hole is in excess of 6 feet deep! There are many other potholes that have never even been explored yet. This is a unique geological feature that is rare in nature and has historically been known to yield surprising amounts of gold when mined in California and Arizona. Here's a link to some interesting info on pothole gold...

Pothole Gold in California

As a teenager, I was amazed by a couple of college guys that worked by hand in what is now the public area for gold. They fished, camped and panned for gold all summer and then used their gold finds to pay for their tuition... and that was when gold was $30 per ounce! The public now works the recreational site and I don't know of any production records other than the estimated production for Fremont County in 1881 of 1,000 troy ounces. That was recorded as being in part from T49N, R10E on the Arkansas River near the mouth of Badger Creek near Howard where this claim is located. If you can get a hold of the book GOLD OCCURRENCES OF COLORADO published by the Colorado Geological Survey in 1990, the references on gold production are in there along with other useful information. There is still a lot of untouched gold bearing ground on my claims above the river high water line but interestingly, lots of fine gold gets replenished into the river channel each spring with runoff and flooding. All of the gold on the public site had to get by the potholes and pinch points on my claim before it came to rest in that free mining area. Just Google BLM Point Barr and you can see what the public site is all about or you can visit this prospecting link as well;

Point Barr Gold Prospecting

Access is by State Highway 50 on the south and along County Road 45 along the north. Please refer to the attached Google Earth View that shows the approximate boundaries of the claim.

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Please e-mail me any with further questions.

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post Aug 10 2017, 05:03 PM
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While the access from Highway 50 is open year-round, the county road running through the claim on the north side of the river has been closed due to flood damage. The government entities that maintain it are said to be getting ready to do the repairs. You can see the red brick wall damage that closes off the public travel. I kind of miss being able to access the adjacent public gold mining area. Quite often there are many folks there that are working the public placer and it is always great to meet and talk with them. Many inquire about access to my family's claim. Perhaps a new owner would like to work with the public to allow those wanting access but we just don't have the time do do it properly with our efforts concentrating on diamond mining in the Stateline District.

A prudent placer miner can readily recognize the gold trapping geology of the bedrock here!

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post Aug 12 2017, 01:54 PM
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Claim offering is now on hold for 30 days pursuant to an inspection/purchase option agreement.

Thanks for all of your previous interest.

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post Aug 28 2017, 09:51 AM
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This claim has sold.


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