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Westcliffe and Silver Cliff Meteorite Craters, Further Evidence of Extinction Level Event
ASTROBLEME
post Mar 26 2016, 04:54 PM
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Greetings Everyone,

I am announcing this discovery as a long time contributor to the Colorado Prospector Forum and want to make sure that other members have access to this information. After initiating a research effort in 2005, I have been able to collect substantial evidence to support a double meteorite impact located in Custer County, Colorado. The Westcliffe Crater is the larger structure while the Silver Cliff Crater is smaller and both are named for the towns nearby. All my work has been done independently and at my own cost.

This previously unrecognized double crater structure is paired with my discovery of the Gunnison Crater. All 3 impacts occurred 360 to 375 million years ago. These impact craters are further evidence supporting the Tonko Lineament that recognizes the serial impacts across the United States aligning on the 38th Parallel. The crater chain and associated fish fossil records I have researched indicate a Devonian mass extinction event where 70% of life on our planet was eliminated. Along with hyper-velocity geologic evidence in the target zone, I have also recovered two meteorite types that are in the early process of classification.

Peak Ring Image of Westcliffe and Silver Cliff Craters
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Westcliffe Meteorite (photo with light sourced to highlight metal inclusions but chondrules are still visible)

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Silver Cliff Meteorite

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Gene Kooper
post Mar 16 2017, 11:28 PM
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You are of course free to misuse the term lineament to define what you believe is a series of impacts similar to the Shoemaker-Levy 9.

Perhaps Geomatt will weigh in with his opinion on its usage. Merely connecting dots along the 38th parallel does not make it a lineament.
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post Mar 17 2017, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE (Gene Kooper @ Mar 16 2017, 11:28 PM) *
You are of course free to misuse the term lineament to define what you believe is a series of impacts similar to the Shoemaker-Levy 9.

Perhaps Geomatt will weigh in with his opinion on its usage. Merely connecting dots along the 38th parallel does not make it a lineament.



Gene - I'm ok with the use of the "38th Parallel Lineament", as the term predates any work Mr. Tonko has ever published on the feature. However, published peer reviewed literature (that I've come across) does not include several of the features that he includes in the lineament. I'm not sure how one would argue 38th Parallel Lineament vs. Tonko Lineament, my guess is that there would be some push back in peer review. If ever proven, I would see this as an extension of the 38th Parallel Lineament, not a renamed Tonko Lineament. The majority of features in the "Tonko Lineament" have been previously identified and the lineament named, and they would be attributable to the same impact event. But feature naming is well ahead of this discussion, you have to make a defendable discovery before you worry about the name.

As for the "crater(s)" he has identified north of Westcliffe - I am very skeptical that it is in fact an impact feature. Given a proposed impact date of Late Devonian, the significant geomorphological changes of the Wet Valley from the Late Cenozoic through the Oligocene (plutonism, explosive volcanism, structural evolution, etc...), and the common rock types of the valley that could be easily mistaken for impact related rocks (tuffs, breccias, rhyolites), I see little chance of this ring structure being an impact feature. Historical mapping in the area has it as an exposed overturned anticline, but very little detailed mapping has been completed in the Mitchell Mountain area with regard to rock types. However, I also haven't seen any geological information in this thread that is definitive, most of it appears to take some creative liberties and depend on non-linear associations (no pun intended). That said, I was already planning on being in Westcliffe this summer for the rodeo. I'll look at the rocks then and decide what I see.
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- ASTROBLEME   Westcliffe and Silver Cliff Meteorite Craters   Mar 26 2016, 04:54 PM
- - johnnybravo300   It looks like the Gunnison crater is in the Hartma...   Mar 26 2016, 10:01 PM
|- - ASTROBLEME   QUOTE (johnnybravo300 @ Mar 26 2016, 11:0...   Mar 26 2016, 10:44 PM
- - James and Cyndi   Quite extraordinary!!! Thanks for shar...   Mar 27 2016, 08:02 AM
- - johnnybravo300   Wow what an awesome read. Makes perfect sense. The...   Mar 27 2016, 07:24 PM
- - Crusty   awesome work; thanks for sharing   Mar 27 2016, 11:48 PM
- - ASTROBLEME   Here's a close-up view of the chondrules in th...   Mar 31 2016, 02:25 PM
- - Gene Kooper   For Astrobleme, On your Crater Research web page ...   Aug 14 2016, 03:20 PM
- - Caveman   HOLY CRAP!!!! I just looked at th...   Jan 8 2017, 11:37 AM
|- - ASTROBLEME   Hello Caveman, Here's a photo of a field spec...   Feb 2 2017, 12:37 PM
|- - Caveman   QUOTE (ASTROBLEME @ Feb 2 2017, 11:37 AM)...   Feb 3 2017, 08:50 AM
- - ASTROBLEME   Hello Caveman, I'm sure you'll want to go...   Feb 9 2017, 07:23 PM
- - Caveman   There is quite a bit that looks like that on the p...   Feb 13 2017, 03:06 PM
- - ASTROBLEME   Exciting News... Having received results from lab...   Mar 4 2017, 05:59 PM
- - johnnybravo300   Those two look identical to the eye. So it is a ro...   Mar 4 2017, 10:21 PM
- - ASTROBLEME   Understanding the natural forces involved in hyper...   Mar 12 2017, 07:18 PM
- - billwolf   Hi guys, I am new to this site and just looking th...   Mar 14 2017, 12:56 PM
- - johnnybravo300   Welcome billwolf. Fascinating to say the least. An...   Mar 14 2017, 01:40 PM
- - ASTROBLEME   I'm pleased to see all the interest in my effo...   Mar 15 2017, 07:10 PM
- - Gene Kooper   I am not sure that this will be received well, but...   Mar 16 2017, 12:42 AM
- - ASTROBLEME   The largest geologic structures found across the s...   Mar 16 2017, 01:54 AM
- - Gene Kooper   You are of course free to misuse the term lineamen...   Mar 16 2017, 11:28 PM
|- - GeoMatt   QUOTE (Gene Kooper @ Mar 16 2017, 11:28 P...   Mar 17 2017, 10:28 AM
||- - Gene Kooper   QUOTE (GeoMatt @ Mar 17 2017, 11:28 AM) G...   Mar 18 2017, 01:03 AM
|- - ASTROBLEME   QUOTE (Gene Kooper @ Mar 17 2017, 12:28 A...   Mar 17 2017, 11:14 AM
- - Gene Kooper   I ran across an interesting presentation at the 20...   Mar 19 2017, 11:32 AM
- - ASTROBLEME   Quote from Gene Kooper to GeoMatt; "Like I s...   Mar 25 2017, 05:44 PM
- - ASTROBLEME   Hello Everyone, There is a growing controversy wi...   Apr 18 2017, 05:41 PM
- - ASTROBLEME   I'm looking forward to data from the InSight L...   Dec 16 2018, 06:40 PM


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