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Miller table from ebay.
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post Mar 25 2016, 11:07 AM
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Just curious if anyone has one of these, and what there thoughts are on it. I have watched a few you tube videos, and it seems to work quite well, and the price is pretty decent.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Miller-Table-LIFET...1gAAOSwa-dWkTxp
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post Mar 25 2016, 02:23 PM
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The Miller principal works well from what I understand but have never owned nor used one. At first glance that one actually looks like it could be built for under $50 if you were so inclined. Would need a small piece of slate (10" X 16") or super flat surface painted with chalkboard paint. The rest looks pretty easy... fab a tray mount, small bilge, one hose fitting to tray/table, small piece of foam or scrungie to disperse water feed at head of tray (fab a rectangular recession for this to live in), and small recirc tub.
..... or $120 isn't gonna kill ya for theirs, all of the R&D is already done.


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post Mar 25 2016, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE (swizz @ Mar 25 2016, 03:23 PM) *
The Miller principal works well from what I understand but have never owned nor used one. At first glance that one actually looks like it could be built for under $50 if you were so inclined. Would need a small piece of slate (10" X 16") or super flat surface painted with chalkboard paint. The rest looks pretty easy... fab a tray mount, small bilge, one hose fitting to tray/table, small piece of foam or scrungie to disperse water feed at head of tray (fab a rectangular recession for this to live in), and small recirc tub.
..... or $120 isn't gonna kill ya for theirs, all of the R&D is already done.



They look pretty efficient for flour gold, I'm sure there is a learning curve with this like anything. I think I will give one a try, I will give some thoughts on it once I receive it and use it a few times.
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post Mar 27 2016, 08:16 AM
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Very interested in your results. -400? Would be interesting to see some previously blue bowled cons go through the miller table just to see. There appears to be a few choices with same general setup. The ones with a vial slot seem a bit easier for recovery. Does seem pretty easy to diy if so inclined. Price is ok for me to justify buying for myself if it works well. I have the gold miner spiral wheel and it's a pain in the ass to use.


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post Mar 29 2016, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE (James and Cyndi @ Mar 27 2016, 09:16 AM) *
Very interested in your results. -400? Would be interesting to see some previously blue bowled cons go through the miller table just to see. There appears to be a few choices with same general setup. The ones with a vial slot seem a bit easier for recovery. Does seem pretty easy to diy if so inclined. Price is ok for me to justify buying for myself if it works well. I have the gold miner spiral wheel and it's a pain in the ass to use.


I wish I had saved my black sands from the last two trips to CC. I threw them in the yard after panning.
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post Mar 31 2016, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE (relicsncoins @ Mar 29 2016, 11:10 AM) *
I wish I had saved my black sands from the last two trips to CC. I threw them in the yard after panning.



Table came today, will give it whirl after Saturday and report back my findings.
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post Apr 11 2016, 08:40 PM
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Any results yet?
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post Apr 13 2016, 08:27 AM
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QUOTE (jhidek @ Apr 11 2016, 09:40 PM) *
Any results yet?



Yes, I have used it once, just haven't had time to write up a report on it yet.
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post Apr 15 2016, 02:08 PM
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Here is my review of the Miller table that is linked to in the first post.
1. Product arrived quickly and well packaged.
2 . Limited assembly is required. (less than 5 minutes)
3. The craftsmanship is good, with one exception. I had to send the table top back, because the holes for the vials were not threaded. The seller paid for return shipping and repaired and returned it very quickly.


Here is the method I used. I classified the concentrates from my sluice though a 4, 50 and 100 mesh screen.

I panned the -4 to +50 down to about two teaspoons of material. I then added about 1 teaspoon of wet material to the table and worked it with the brush provided until I separated the gold from black sands. +50 gold is quite easy to separate. It took me about 10 minutes per teaspoon full.

I panned the +100 to -50 material down to about 4 teaspoons and lessened the angle of the table with the adjustments posts. Again, I added about one teaspoon of material and worked it until the gold was separated.

For the -100 material, I did not pan it at all, I simply ran 1 teaspoon at a time until I had separated the gold from the black sands.

Here are some photos I took while running -100 material.

You can see the line of gold starting to form as the black sands slowly trail away.

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Here you can see a fair amount of -100 gold in the sands.


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The last photo is the -100 gold mostly cleaned of blacks sands.


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In summary, you need good lighting and decent eyesight to use this table, as it relies on you being able to see the gold and push it back up if it starts to trail away with the black sands. For the most part, you can walk away and the gold will stay put as it relies on you brushing and dabbing the brush to get the black sands to move. Classifying is a must, and panning down your various mesh sizes helps speed up the process. There is a learning curve and a bit of an art form involved, but all in all, it's a useful tool for separating fine gold from black sands.
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post Apr 15 2016, 11:49 PM
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Awesome, thank you for the review!!! I think I'm gonna have to pick one up. Was gonna attempt a diy build, but between surgical recovery, dealing with my claims and jumpers, and household projects buying sounds like a better option.
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post Apr 18 2016, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE (jhidek @ Apr 16 2016, 12:49 AM) *
Awesome, thank you for the review!!! I think I'm gonna have to pick one up. Was gonna attempt a diy build, but between surgical recovery, dealing with my claims and jumpers, and household projects buying sounds like a better option.



I considered building one as well, but the price for this unit was reasonable enough to save myself some time and buy one.
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post Apr 18 2016, 06:40 PM
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Thanks for the input! Still undecided.


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post Nov 4 2016, 11:50 AM
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I have personally made my own miller table from a plastic tote, water pump, flat piece of wood with black chalkboard paint, and PVC to make a spray bar for under $75. Once they are fine tuned they are great for recovering fine flower gold. I also drilled a hole thru the deck and mounted a gold vile to the bottom so that I could use a small paint brush to push the gold in. Takes patience to get it tuned correctly with the right angle and amount of water flow. But once there tuned it, you can simple spoon the sand onto the table and the water will wash all the black sand away and leave the gold/platinum on the table. The biggest con is that it is a very slow process compared to other methods for fine gold recovery but it is the best way to get all your gold IMO.
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post Nov 4 2016, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE (HighGrade @ Nov 4 2016, 12:50 PM) *
I have personally made my own miller table from a plastic tote, water pump, flat piece of wood with black chalkboard paint, and PVC to make a spray bar for under $75. Once they are fine tuned they are great for recovering fine flower gold. I also drilled a hole thru the deck and mounted a gold vile to the bottom so that I could use a small paint brush to push the gold in. Takes patience to get it tuned correctly with the right angle and amount of water flow. But once there tuned it, you can simple spoon the sand onto the table and the water will wash all the black sand away and leave the gold/platinum on the table. The biggest con is that it is a very slow process compared to other methods for fine gold recovery but it is the best way to get all your gold IMO.


The biggest downside I've seen, is that a piece of rounded gold will want to try and roll down the table.
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post Nov 4 2016, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE (relicsncoins @ Nov 4 2016, 01:39 PM) *
The biggest downside I've seen, is that a piece of rounded gold will want to try and roll down the table.


That is true, the shape to the gold does matter and small nuggets will roll. Hopefully, If your diligent, you should be able to spot them before they go off the edge. Also, helps to attach a tray or bucket to the end of the table to capture the rejects or chance that a nugget rolls off.
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