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 Dec 10 2011, 07:19 PM
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Rock Bar!  Group: Members Posts: 434 Joined: 12-February 09 Member No.: 6,851  |
Radio Talk Show Host Hal Anthony will be discussing a news article on the most recent conviction of miner Cliff Tracy for illegal mining in the second hour. This Sunday 12/11 on http://oraclebroadcasting.com/ 2:00 PM- 4:00 PM CST, Noon O'Clock Pacific - Behind the Woodshed w/ Hal Anthony
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Dec 11 2011, 08:18 PM
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Rock Bar! Group: Members Posts: 434 Joined: 12-February 09 Member No.: 6,851 |
If you missed or were unable to listen to Hal Anthony's discussion on Miner Cliff Tracy's recent conviction, here is an mp3 link:
http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/Behind_T...1-12-11_16k.mp3 If you’re wanting to skip to the Tracy discussion, scroll to the half way mark Note: Please be patient, it may take a few moments to load. Note 2: For those new to the forum, a little back ground on Hal Anthony: Not only is He the Talk Show Host of Behind the Woodshed, but a Miner himself. Among many of his self-learned accomplishments, He has been studying/researching/implementing Mining Law and Property Rights for many years contributing extensively to the South West Oregon Mining Association Outreach and Education and in helping to create Jefferson Mining District. |
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Dec 12 2011, 10:53 PM
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Rock Bar! Group: Members Posts: 434 Joined: 12-February 09 Member No.: 6,851 |
Law of Possession of 1865 http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/min.../1865/1865.html
Mineral Grant of 1866 http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/min...eral-Grant.html Placer Act of 1870 http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/min...Mining-Act.html Act to Protect the Rights of Miners of 1871 http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/min...Mining-Act.html General Mining Act of 1872 http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/min...Mining-Act.html |
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Dec 13 2011, 06:59 AM
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russau Group: Members Posts: 2,841 Joined: 4-December 03 From: st.louis missouri Member No.: 43 |
saved to my favorites! thankyou MEG!
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Dec 13 2011, 07:06 AM
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russau Group: Members Posts: 2,841 Joined: 4-December 03 From: st.louis missouri Member No.: 43 |
this is a great list of referance material that i hope every miner would read and or atleast store and use as their referance source.ive got it all stored.
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Dec 13 2011, 10:23 AM
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Rock Bar! Group: Members Posts: 434 Joined: 12-February 09 Member No.: 6,851 |
Mining Law & Mining Rights Learning Center
http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com//mi...ining-laws.html |
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Dec 23 2011, 11:37 AM
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Rock Bar! Group: Members Posts: 434 Joined: 12-February 09 Member No.: 6,851 |
For those looking for an authority figure to confirm whether or not a locator of a valuable mineral deposit claim has private property (notwithstanding the mining law states “shall have the exclusive right of possession and enjoyment of all the surface included within the lines of their locations” and court ruling “as good as though secured by patent”), addressing those that turned out for the Jefferson Mining District meeting 12/16/2011, Sheriff Gilbertson makes clear his research settles for him anyone asserting otherwise, is speaking contrary to law. You can hear this for yourselves:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYKiD4legsg...feature=related skip/scroll to 11:45 on time bar |
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Dec 28 2011, 07:08 PM
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Rock Bar! Group: Members Posts: 434 Joined: 12-February 09 Member No.: 6,851 |
New at: http://www.miningrights.org
RS 2477 Access Validated By Custer County, Idaho Hal Anthony on Public Land vs. Public Domain Cassanelli says she will continue to support county and miners Lawman Richard Mack Tells Sheriffs: You Can Fight NWO at County Level Defazio Launches Attack on Galice and Grave Creeks |
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Jan 4 2012, 02:38 PM
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Rock Bar! Group: Members Posts: 434 Joined: 12-February 09 Member No.: 6,851 |
BLM records list the status of granted valuable mineral deposits as an administrative entries, i.e., leaseable mineral or saleable mineral, under the 1976 FLPMA.
So be ready for some trouble from the agencies over your claims, whether or not you use defective premade forms. Most store-bought or provided forms that are filed as location notices have problems. And each is different. What you are filing is a Location Notice. The importance of this document can not be understated. The location notice is the evidence and title to the land claimed. Being title to the land claimed it is extremely important to state things correctly. What store-bought forms do and what you have to avoid in the Notice is accepting obligations that are not part of the grant or anticipate entry under the 1976 FLPMA. Phrases such as "subject to state law" are tell-tale problems because there is no such requirement under the grant. There are state statutes but those must conform to the "laws of the United Sates" and really only pertain to how one establishes possessory title and exclusive possession under the mining law, 30 USC 26. The 1866 act is a law of the United States and congressional land disposal act and no state or agency can interfere. It was amended in 1870 to include placer deposits and again in 1872 to include all valuable mineral deposits, not merely those minerals expressed under the 1866 Act. This is not so for administrative entries. "mining claims" such as for Common Mineral Materials, 30 USC 612. The current "book store" forms appear inadequate for the specific purpose of the Mineral Estate Grantee. You are not just making a "mineral claim". You are claiming a mineral deposit. There is a big difference, even though they all go through the formal requirements for making a claim guided by the 1872 Act. The Location Notice is a notice of exclusive Claim of a mineral deposit which enjoys "as patent" rights. As such, by this you can readily see any obligation you volunteer in your Notice gives the Notice that you will accept a lesser estate subject to external or state or federal statutes or rules. Such a claim is not "as patent" and is subject to state and federal regulation, such as environmental impositions, bonds and reclamation. You could take a Bookstore form as a model and then cut out all the servitudes, then add a couple lines accepting your mineral deposit located and granted in the Act of July 26, 1866... as amended by the Act of 1870, if for a placer deposit, pursuant to the Act of 1872. You can get a copy of the 1866 Act at http://www.grantedright.com and look at The Law page. Print out HR 365 and the Hicks case for reference material to carry with you. The first paragraph of HR 365 has most of what you need for a Location Notice statement. You'll need to add the Legal Description describing or segregating the land to the notice. ..and the other requirements. I don't want to make it sound complicated because it really isn't. The requirement though to stay true to the act of 1866 or as amended as the case may need, is required. The mineral disposal Acts are a simple but have far-reaching consequences which we enjoy today. Such as RIGHT of way access in Section 8. This means, if you are prospecting you have right to be in the public land and on the roads. Read the Hicks case for clarification. Notice he was on a "closed" road and had right to be there. There is an open invitation every First Friday to the SWOMA meeting. Jefferson Mining District meeting to follow. We always go over a lot of stuff and people can get help too. A lot of help is on the fly but it seems to work out. |
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Jan 17 2012, 10:17 PM
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Rock Bar! Group: Members Posts: 434 Joined: 12-February 09 Member No.: 6,851 |
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Jan 18 2012, 05:41 AM
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russau Group: Members Posts: 2,841 Joined: 4-December 03 From: st.louis missouri Member No.: 43 |
HMMM? interesting notes/video!!
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Jan 18 2012, 07:01 PM
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 Master Mucker Group: Members Posts: 1,439 Joined: 22-February 04 Member No.: 98 |
Man, he went totally psyyy...eyyyye...eyyyye...eyyyye...CHO!
WOW! What department was that and when? -------------------- Today's socio-political climate is rock solid proof that Adam and Eve weren't prospectors.
If they were they'd have eaten the snake instead of the apple and we'd still be in heaven.... |
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Jan 19 2012, 01:52 PM
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 Moderator Group: Members Posts: 4,459 Joined: 25-August 09 From: way on up thar Member No.: 6,983 |
sorry, but this is not real.
It was two officers pulling a prank: Pranksters -------------------- /l ,[____], l---L-OlllllllO- ()_) ()_)--o-)_) BLACK SANDS MATTER! Very Happy CP Lifetime Member CP CORE TEAM Referral Code CE213 |
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Jan 23 2012, 07:55 PM
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Rock Bar! Group: Members Posts: 434 Joined: 12-February 09 Member No.: 6,851 |
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Jan 24 2012, 10:18 AM
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Rock Bar! Group: Members Posts: 434 Joined: 12-February 09 Member No.: 6,851 |
Jefferson Mining District is actively looking to develop a mining archive library for the benefit of the miners inside the lines of its jurisdictions.
At this time, we are seeking donations of articles, books, maps, mining records, photographs and other information pertaining to mining, roads and related topics in the following areas: Oregon: Curry, Coos, Josephine, Jackson, Klamath, Lake, Douglas, Lane, Deschutes, Crook and Harney Counties. California: Del Norte, Siskiyou, Modoc, Humboldt, Trinity, Shasta, Lassen, Plumas, Tehama, Mendocino, Lake, Glenn, Colusa, Sutter, Tuba, Sierra, Nevada, Placer, El Dorado, Amador, Alpine, Calavaeras, Sacramento, Yolo, Napa and Sonoma Counties. Nevada: Carson City, Storey, Douglas, Pershing and Lyon Counties. Donations of these materials, in print or digital format, is not only much appreciated, but essential to help preserve and protect our mining rights. In particular, we are looking for old maps that clearly show old roads and trails, as well as records pertaining to individual mines and mining areas. We also welcome first hand accounts from the old timers who have witnessed the mining history in their area. If you are a miner inside of our district, we would also like to encourage you to take an active role in the Jefferson Mining District inside your particular mining area by volunteering to get involved in our important work. To donate digital information to Jefferson Mining District, please e-mail it to: jeffersonminingarchive@gmail.com To donate printed material, please mail it to: Jefferson Mining District Attn: Archive Work Group PO Box 416 Sutherlin, Oregon 97479 |
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