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Posted by: Mrs.CP Mar 20 2005, 08:05 AM

We were requested to put this thread up so we can compare different states regulations.
Post your states permit/application....... Or a link to it here.

Posted by: russau Mar 21 2005, 11:16 AM

most of missouri is privately owned. so written permission is needed. then when dredgeing in state waters you need a permit from the corp of enginerrs CWA section 404. the C.O.E. handels the permitting proccess for the EPA. all navigatable waters up to the highwater mark and its tributaries and all wetlands are included. everytime you move your location, you need to have this permitt modified through the C.O.E. most creeks you only need the owners permission to access these creeks.

Posted by: ColoradoProspector Mar 22 2005, 10:12 AM

Thanks Russ!

We also got a few responses via email which I'll post in this thread with their states information.

CP

Posted by: ColoradoProspector Mar 22 2005, 10:26 AM

From a WYOMING miner.....

 

Posted by: ColoradoProspector Mar 22 2005, 10:35 AM

From a KANSAS miner.....

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We do not have a dredge permit or dredge season here in Kansas.
We do not have BLM,FS or anyother public lands here as far as fed. gov. goes. We do have some state lakes that are run by county governments. And game managment areas though.

Posted by: ColoradoProspector Mar 22 2005, 10:38 AM

From a WASHINGTON miner.....

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In Washington, miners and prospectors must carry this Gold & Fish book with them while prospecting/mining. Altouugh the online version is accurate, a booklet printed by the State is the only acceptable version to use in the field. Here is the link:

http://wdfw.wa.gov/hab/goldfish/goldfish.htm

  Any deviations from the methods, timing, or location guidelines, require a HPA (Hydraulic Project Approval) Please don't blame me if the book makes no sense, we Washington miners have been trying to make sense of it since 1999!!!! That is why we are working to change the regulations here.

Posted by: ColoradoProspector Mar 22 2005, 10:40 AM

From an ALASKA miner....

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Sorry  I  don't  have  a copy  of  Alaska's  permit.  Actually  for  dredges  6  inches  and  under  the  state  only  requires  a  Fisheries  dept  permit.  By  regulation  agreement  the  EPA  accepts  that  as  complying  with  their  regs  also.  It's  simple  to  get,  go  in  fill  out  ---- name -- addy  --dredge  size -- area --- etc  and  they  sign  it  on  the  spot.  NO  cost  and  takes  about    5  minutes


This miner is still looking for the link to the permit....updates soon hopefully. :)

CP

Posted by: ColoradoProspector May 6 2005, 10:05 AM

Thought this would be of interest to the dredgers here in Colorado.
We don't have a state dredge permit and only 3 rivers in the state are regulated for dredging.
You can find the permits for the Arkansas river at the BLM website.
http://www.co.blm.gov/ccdo/minerals/suction-dredging-app.pdf See post reply #28 in this thread (pg 2) from 3/21/2010 posted by myself for the latest permit print off.

The other 2 rivers that are permitted for dredging in Colorado would be the Uncompahgre and the Cache La' Poudre although I've not seen one of those permits. Maybe they use the Arkansas headwater permit for those offices purposes as well. Phone the appropriate blm office to find out.

http://www.coloradoprospector.com/Colorado%20aggregate%20extraction%20guidelines.pdf
The PDF file in the link above is from the CDMG, is a good read though and refers small scale dredgers to the COE for permitting requirements which they happily gave us the okey dokey (in writing) last year, for the rally, to run 6 dredges at once on Clear Creek up to 4" each without any permit needed. (one claim)

Have a great season everyone and may gold line your pans & sluices!

CP

Posted by: ColoradoProspector Jul 6 2005, 11:19 AM

Hello again everyone,

I've just received a copy of the BLM "permit" for the Arkansas Headwater rec area.
WOW!! huh.gif
We haven't ever had a claim in this area or even had a permit up there......bet there were/are some pretty upset claim owners in that area.

I thought we should get a copy seeing how the BLM site is still down and everyone would like to get one of these permits. <_< :(

Well the ol text converter didn't get it done right so here it is in jpg format...sorry. wacko.gif
You can print these off just the same and the quality is much better.

Check over this one and let me know if you would be a happy miner in this area?

CP










Posted by: Coalbunny Nov 6 2005, 07:27 PM

From what I know Dan-
- the Gunnison is reportedly "no motorized equipment". This is going back 5-6 years, so don't count on accuracy please.
- word of mouth from a fella that has a dredge I wanted to buy is that the Cache La Poudre is a permit-required waterway. Not sure of this, but my understanding is that all mineral activity must have a permit, unsure of the cost if any.
- Arkansas River and any waterways within the Arkansas Headwaters Recreation Area requires a permit for dredges and highbankers. Unsure of cost. Panning and manual/nonmotorized slucing is allowed, no permits required.
- Colorado River, I'm unsure of. I have been kicked off in one place by a state park ranger, then I find out the park is several miles downstream. Several different sources give me several different stories. Rangers say no mining whatsoever, IOW no panning or anything from (I forget where it starts) to the Utah border. OTOH the district office at Corn Lake Rec. Area on 32 road in Clifton, CO has said no problem with panning, and the lady was even cheerful and wished me the best of luck in finding something. So all in all, I have no idea what the rules are there. I'm hoping to be down that way in a few weeks and plan on dipping my pan.

It's not a lot of stuff Dan, and I can't guarantee the accuracy. If I make it down that way in a few weeks I'll try to dig up info for you guys.
Carl

Posted by: cornwall84 Mar 7 2006, 02:59 AM

well theres not as much info on this as i thought there would be, maybe people were waiting for the latest regs.

:) :)

Posted by: ColoradoProspector Mar 13 2006, 08:03 AM

I just moved the aggregate withdrawl guidelines over to this thread since there are several of you trying to compile state info. ^_^

CP

Posted by: leonard Mar 17 2006, 07:10 AM

Here's a link to the permit form for the Arkansas River Headwaters. http://golddredger.com/forms/arkansasriverapplication2005.pdf It costs $25.00 and is good for 2 years. At least for dredges. I've never applied for anything else. You can usually get it over the counter in Salida. I'd call first though as only certain people can issue it.
Leonard

Posted by: Coalbunny Mar 26 2006, 06:33 AM

A little while back I double checked on the part about the state park on the Colorado River in Grand Junction. The fellow I spoke with said so long as it's recreational the ranger would have no problem with it. My suggestion is to contact them and ask before hand.

Posted by: cornwall84 Mar 28 2006, 05:38 AM

found one for utah

http://geology.utah.gov/online_html/pi/pi-50/pi50regs.htm

Posted by: cornwall84 Mar 28 2006, 06:08 AM

Oregon,I think this is the latest one ,if so its a a bone of contention with miners as apparently if you get this permit i think you can be sued by the greenies.crazy eh
so some say dont get one.

http://www.oregon.gov/DSL/PERMITS/docs/ga_placer_auth_app.pdf


:( :(

Posted by: cornwall84 Mar 28 2006, 09:39 AM

Idaho compliments of sparky

http://www.idwr.idaho.gov/water/stream_dam/sca/sca4.htm

Posted by: cornwall84 Mar 28 2006, 09:42 AM

montana , once again from sparky

http://www.deq.state.mt.us/wqinfo/MPDES/SuctionDredge.asp

Posted by: cornwall84 Apr 9 2006, 12:15 PM

Nevada,

These links look the same but are different please read both.



http://ndow.org/about/license/pdf/app04/dredge.pdf

http://ndow.org/about/license/pdf/inst04/dredging.pdf

Posted by: cornwall84 Apr 10 2006, 09:38 AM

Maine.

http://www.maine.gov/doc/nrimc/mgs/explore/minerals/facts/goldfact.htm

Posted by: Mrs.CP Jul 26 2006, 09:48 AM

Excelent info Cornwall and Sparky!
Thanks for adding the links Alan.

Posted by: cornwall84 Jul 31 2006, 08:57 AM

This is good.

http://www.icmj.com/RegAgencyState.htm

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Posted by: Mrs.CP Aug 2 2006, 05:16 AM

Excelent link!
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Posted by: ColoradoProspector Feb 6 2008, 10:31 AM

For those of you planning to visit the Arkansas river headwater recreation area this year.....Here is the new 2008 permit print out you will need for highbanking and or dredging.

ARKANSAS RIVER NOTICE FOR MOTORIZED PLACER OPERATIONS - link removed by BLM with new 2010 permit update....see post #28 in this thread for updates.

CP

Posted by: russau Feb 7 2008, 07:42 AM

over on the gpaa site there is a list of info by state on dredgeing laws. i printed it out and tried to post the link but it wouldnt come up. they need a update on info for Colorado and lots of other states. lots of good info and other links.

Posted by: ColoradoProspector Feb 12 2008, 11:40 AM

Cool Russ and thanks for trying. Sorry the link wouldn't work.
Feel free to post the link for this thread on their forum board......I know the link will work. wink.gif
This thread has become quite useful for everyone! Great work folks!

Direct link to this thread is ..........
http://www.coloradoprospector.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=728
Which we keep pinned at the top of the valuable references sections so it's easily found. smile.gif

CP

Posted by: ColoradoProspector Apr 17 2008, 09:05 AM

New permits this year for the Cache creek area too....... print out yours from here
http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/co/field_offices/royal_gorge_field/Minerals/locatable_minerals/documents/2008_dredge_forms.Par.59264.File.dat/2008application_form_cache_creek.pdf

CP

Posted by: ColoradoProspector Mar 21 2010, 12:33 PM

New updates from BLM for the Arkansas headwater recreational area as well as Cache creek for 2010 can be found at.....

http://www.blm.gov/co/st/en/fo/rgfo/minerals/locatable_minerals/placer_mining/Arkansas_River_Dredge_Permit.html, just look to the right upper corner for the Cache creek one and or the maps BLM put together for that area showing claims. Caution though, I browsed through them and have question as to the accurate layout of those claims shown (or not shown?)...... slaphead.gif spock.gif

And before anyone asks, no we don't own a claim there, but someone liked us so much they named their claim after the Colorado Prospector club? groucho.gif biggrin.gif thumbsupsmileyanim.gif

Good luck out there prospecting everyone, hope ya'll find tons.

CP

Posted by: ColoradoProspector Apr 9 2010, 12:04 PM

Hey everyone,

Thought this pdf would be a good update about Colorado states dredging regs or restrictions for the whole state.
For the state of Colorado in general there is no nozzle or engine limit on dredges, instead the square footage of the surface area (including stream bed) are what is gauged by the Colorado DMRS.
If you are disturbing less than the threshold stated there is no permit/notice required nor is there any limit on nozzle or engine size.

Short download pdf, only 2 pages but well worth it for those dredging in Colorado. happy088.gif Download your copy now. smile.gif

 ColoradoSuctionDredges.pdf ( 97.56K ) : 774

Posted by: swizz Apr 9 2010, 02:13 PM

Thanks Dan, I'm printing them now.

Posted by: ColoradoProspector Jul 2 2010, 12:49 PM

Good deal Swizz. happy088.gif

These are what the BLM refers people to from their website concerning prospecting (dredging specifically) outside of the Arkansas river headwater recreational area. So for anyone dredging and highbanking with combos it would be good to have this info for Colorado.

CP

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