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Posted by: MastiffLovers Jun 22 2017, 03:48 PM

Hi everyone,

I am so excited to become a member and I had a question with regards to a mining claim that I have and living on it. I want to live in a yurt or build a small cabin on my mining claim. It is patented claim with deed. Any info would be greatly appreciated. I have heard that I can build whatever I want to live in because it is federal jurisdiction. Is this true? Also I heard only inspection would be to make sure I have something for waste like composting toilet? I plan to mine but on my own. I do not have a mining company. I just know nothing about it which is why I am asking.

Posted by: swizz Jun 22 2017, 06:54 PM

First off, welcome to CP!
Secondly congratulations on owning a patented mineral claim!! Hopefully others will chine in with more concise information but I believe you are well within your rights to build on your patented claim as long as your patent status is listed as "Active", your annuals are up to date, and your paperwork is in order. You should be good to go and I am officially jealous.

Posted by: Crusty Jun 22 2017, 09:46 PM

Welcome! Sounds like you've got a great spot there!

Not sure about what structure rules you'd have to follow; hopefully someone will chime in

Posted by: MastiffLovers Jun 23 2017, 07:32 AM

Thank you for responses and they are already helping because I thought you only had to keep up on annual fees if it was not patented? I just assumed if it was patented that means I own the mineral right and the land itself? The County the property is in is Clear Creek County. Thanks so much for the warm welcome guys! My dream is to just build tiny offgrid cabin with trees and rocks from our property and I am hoping I will not be bothered except that I will make sure my waste is contained in approved method like a sealed compost toilet. My friend who owned the property said that it is federal jurisdiction and I pretty much tell them too bad, I'm building be a use I need a small cabin to live in to mine my land and pan the creek... I just can't find the rule that says that and I am a process oriented kind of guy so I HAVE to see it in writing somewhere or talk to someone who has built small cabin with little interference on a mining claim. Thanks again guys. Hopefully this doesn't run on too much.

Posted by: DiggingDad32 Jun 23 2017, 10:29 AM

Welcome!

Check out this website specific to Patented claims in Clear Creek County. Hope it helps!!

http://www.co.clear-creek.co.us/index.aspx?NID=228

Posted by: Gene Kooper Jun 23 2017, 05:45 PM

You state that it is a patented mining claim and that the previous owner told you it is under federal jurisdiction. One of those is incorrect. The federal government no longer has jurisdiction after a patent has been issued (as long as it has not been vacated). Here is the link to the http://www.co.clear-creek.co.us/index.aspx?NID=95, which contains several FAQs you may find informative about obtaining a building permit. I won't comment on what they regard as appropriate for an individual waste disposal system.

Assuming the land was patented as a "mining claim" the patent will include the mineral rights. You need to read through your deed to make sure that you acquired both the surficial and mineral estate. They can be sold separately. If you purchased a patented mining claim, you will be assessed property taxes by the Clear Creek Assessor. Ask your friend what he was paying. Otherwise, you can use the http://map.co.clear-creek.co.us/HTML5Viewer/?viewer=clearmap and search on the mining claim name or your name. If there are more than one entry, select the one you are interested in viewing. There is a choice to, "View Assessor Record", which will include among other things the annual property taxes. Otherwise, expect a letter from the Clear Creek Assessor in the not too distant future.

Posted by: johnnybravo300 Jun 23 2017, 10:04 PM

Self composting toilets are mobile and easy to install anywhere if you want to clean out your patties every so often.
Most counties I've read about have minimum size requirements before a permit is needed, say 80 sq ft, (10x8 or thereabouts), which most outhouses and small sheds fall under. I'd look into that...may be an easy solution.
My son had a self composting toilet in an RV for awhile and it was a stinking nightmare to deal with and they are expensive.

Posted by: Colorado Roots Dec 28 2017, 06:04 PM

Welcome!

I had a composting toilet on a houseboat i lived on full time for 3 years until i upgraded to a bigger boat. I used the waste as " humanure" to grow potted plants on the sun deck and dock. They work really well and the "soil" you make is even better when admented with perlite and other amdements but as mentioned they are a maintenance item (not something you install and forget) and can be pricy when you first purchase!

Shop around to find the best deal if you have your butt set on one...