Please help Identify?, Have an odd specimen, not sure exactly what it is... |
Please help Identify?, Have an odd specimen, not sure exactly what it is... |
Jul 21 2015, 12:21 PM
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Diggin' In! Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 17-July 15 From: Denver Member No.: 121,071 |
Hey Gems, not sure if youre still following, but the CSM museum can do an XRF test for you that may help shed some light on it. Thats a pretty dense material, but also keep in mind that specific gravity is most useful for ID with a pure specimen too. If youve got varying minerals present, that could skew your data.
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Jul 21 2015, 01:04 PM
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Shovel Buster! Group: Members Posts: 77 Joined: 2-May 15 From: Aurora, CO Member No.: 120,420 |
I'm far from an expert, but at 6.67, and given what it looks like (dead ringer), I put my money on cassiterite (tin ore).
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Sep 20 2015, 02:25 PM
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Diggin' In! Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 8-March 14 From: Parker, on the planet earth Member No.: 116,986 |
I hate to ask novice questions in an amateurish way, but.... When I walk down forest service roads while hunting or hiking there are massive pieces of what appears to be quartz, mixed in with other elements. Are these pieces quartz or other minerals, I am constantly picking pieces up and tossing them, I can't keep them all...lol...Please forgive the beginners questions. I really thought I was better at identifying specimens. Thanks.
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Sep 20 2015, 02:36 PM
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Diggin' In! Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 8-March 14 From: Parker, on the planet earth Member No.: 116,986 |
I put this question here wrongly, sorry....
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Sep 21 2015, 01:23 PM
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Master Mucker! Group: Admin Posts: 7,197 Joined: 7-October 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 4 |
No problem AirBreather, I will just answer here as well.
Sounds like you are describing quartz. It is "the second most abundant mineral in the Earth's continental crust, after feldspar." -------------------- Education is the key to the future,
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Jun 4 2016, 03:48 PM
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Diggin' In! Group: Members Posts: 16 Joined: 18-February 15 Member No.: 120,143 |
Hey guys, thanks so much for your feed back and support! We still have no idea what it is yet, but
we have done more tests in the last year. Ps- Sorry, I had forgotten my log in information there for a while. Anyway, here is what we know: After nearly two years of research, and having it tested at a state university, we were able to discover some minerals that it contained, but are still not 100% positive of what the item actually is. The test results show: Cr/F/Fe/Mn/C/Si/Co as well as several small spikes that were unidentified. Under a microscope, it shows red, yellow, green, white, and clear crystalline. There was also some rust with a week attraction to magnet. The item is not man made, that much we were able to figure out. |
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Jun 4 2016, 07:41 PM
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Rock Bar! Group: Members Posts: 875 Joined: 25-July 14 From: Westminster, CO Member No.: 117,949 |
The results you gave sound a lot like SEM-EDS (scanning electron microscope with energy dispersive spectroscopy) results. Aside from having access to such a machine, the key I've found is the analyst interpreting the results. If you have the spectra charts and pictures showing the areas they were taken from, along with parameters used, that would be helpful. For me, they'd be interesting, but I'm pretty clueless there. Posting them in a materials forum or similar might yield you results; particularly if the person has seen such a similar animal previously.
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Oct 9 2016, 05:44 PM
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Diggin' In! Group: Members Posts: 16 Joined: 18-February 15 Member No.: 120,143 |
We have new information and I may post a new post as it might be easier.
Thanks so much to everyone for helping out, Each new advice has led us one step closer to identifying this odd object. =) |
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Feb 14 2020, 07:32 PM
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Diggin' In! Group: Members Posts: 16 Joined: 18-February 15 Member No.: 120,143 |
Updated Information-
Hello Colorado Prospector! Thank you all for your input and interest in this object. We have had a couple of more tests done on it. we sent the first test results and a few photos to a lab in Hawaii and his opinion was no viable reason for an alloy, "extraterrestrial or man-made". For the second test we sent a small sample to California with test # 1's results and his opinion was a "chromium alloy of some sort". But he had no clue what kind or use. For the third test we drove four hours in a snow storm to keep our appointment at UMN. It was a very disappointing, unprofessional, disrespectful 5 min meeting. He did not examine the rock at all other than to slam it on the desk and did 1 XRF test. He then told us to have a nice day and He would email us the results. No opinion or nothing. While watching the weather channel one evening, they aired two segments, one hour each called "the birth and death of a planet" and "it fell from space". We were shocked to see images of 4.5 billion year old organisms that seemed to match some of the things we see in our home magnified photos of things found in a meteorite. In our further research, we found out the shape of an oriented meteorite could be worth 10 times as that of gold. Nasa posted a drawing of the shape and discussed it in detail, they don't have one to post a photo of. Our item appears to match that description to a T. They also stated that the material inside is not what's important. The images you see in the photos are not seen if you hold in your hand. Many people have commented on the "blue" there are a couple of websites that talk about that, but you must dig deep. There's a secret about the blue.. we will talk about that later. Many of the professionals we dealt with said they are not interested in proving it because of the bureaucracy and expense. After several years and more than a few bucks, our hands are tied. We know it's illegal to sell and undocumented meteorite as real, but it's not illegal to list it as the worlds best fake meteorite with several bonus features, too many to list here. We are not meteorite professionals, but after researching this item, I am pretty sure I could teach a college level course. We will post a few photos later this weekend. We were very excited to see that this went to a hot topic status. Thank you all. |
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Mar 10 2020, 07:27 PM
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Diggin' In! Group: Members Posts: 16 Joined: 18-February 15 Member No.: 120,143 |
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Feb 2 2021, 03:06 AM
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Master Mucker Group: Members Posts: 1,439 Joined: 22-February 04 Member No.: 98 |
Chromite....
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