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Trouble near Boulder, Jeepers trying to claim private road
59er
post Jun 4 2006, 10:05 PM
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Heads up: the Denver metro area Jeep clubs are attempting to claim that another private mining road is public for their joy rides and other entertainment. The miner that owns it has been experiencing vandalism and closed it to the vandals. Recent article in the Times-Call:

http://www.longmontfyi.com/Local-Story.asp?id=7779

Here is a forum where the off-road clubs are debating whether or not to respect the owner's right to close his property:

http://colorado4x4.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=65365

This is happening alot in the front range where new uses are clashing with traditional uses.
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post Jun 16 2006, 09:49 PM
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Jerry, I think you are misreading RS 2477. It says “The right-of way for the construction of highways over public lands, not reserved for public uses, is hereby granted.” Proving it was constructed before FLPMA (1976) only applies to roads on public land not reserved for public uses.

Congress has no authority to grant a right of way over private property, and the law expressly states that it is only granting the right of way over public land not reserved for public uses. National Forests are reserved for public uses, so the law does not apply to roads constructed on National Forest land.

So you have to document one of the following. Either the road was constructed before the land became National Forest (if it is now National Forest) or before it was patented as private land (if it is now private land) or before 1976 (if it is public land not reserved for public uses).

By Colorado statute, a road across private land must be used adversely for 20 years (not 5 years) before it can be claimed as a public road. That's not RS 2477 (which was a federal law).
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- 59er   Trouble near Boulder   Jun 4 2006, 10:05 PM
- - ColoradoProspector   Well after reading through the article and some of...   Jun 8 2006, 07:44 AM
- - 59er   CP, the problem is that the FS does not own the ri...   Jun 8 2006, 11:48 PM
- - ColoradoProspector   Thanks for posting this info 59er and I'm stil...   Jun 10 2006, 09:45 AM
- - 59er   Hey CP, thanks for keeping an open mind. I think ...   Jun 11 2006, 08:12 AM
- - Coalbunny   I think Dan is right, so far. Before any decision...   Jun 14 2006, 09:38 PM
- - plp.001   The laws on rights of wqy can be found in the 1866...   Jun 15 2006, 07:48 AM
- - plp.001   Of course if that ingress egress interferes with a...   Jun 15 2006, 07:52 AM
- - 59er   Jerry, Not any road built between 1866 and 1976 i...   Jun 15 2006, 08:59 PM
- - plp.001   59er You don't have to prove thaqt the road w...   Jun 15 2006, 11:21 PM
- - Coalbunny   Also depends on the deals the claim owners had in ...   Jun 15 2006, 11:37 PM
- - 59er   Jerry, I think you are misreading RS 2477. It say...   Jun 16 2006, 09:49 PM
- - 59er   Coalbunny. I think this sorta thing happened all ...   Jun 16 2006, 09:58 PM
- - 59er   I did a little research. A couple weeks ago a jud...   Jun 17 2006, 08:14 AM
- - plp.001   59er The courts have found both ways for and agai...   Jun 17 2006, 09:14 AM
- - Coalbunny   Exactly 59er. They should have had it documented ...   Jun 18 2006, 05:31 AM
- - plp.001   I know that San Bernardino County and several othe...   Jun 18 2006, 07:25 AM
- - 59er   I'd be interested in knowing if any of these a...   Jun 21 2006, 07:17 PM
- - wheasonjr   Hi 59er On many patented properties for mining...   Jul 12 2006, 10:56 AM
- - russau   my x-father-in-law had two acres of property(2 sid...   Jul 13 2006, 04:54 AM
- - plp.001   Russ and all RS 2477 Rights of way do not have to...   Jul 13 2006, 09:14 AM
- - 59er   I don't think that this is an RS 2477 right of...   Jul 13 2006, 09:54 PM
- - 59er   Looks like this is a done deal. I guess there was...   Aug 2 2006, 08:37 PM
- - Gotgold   I joined the forum this morning, this topic regard...   Aug 15 2006, 04:15 AM
- - rehab   if the man owns the property (as in patented minin...   Aug 15 2006, 12:23 PM
- - rehab   with the 59er story, I think the guy would have to...   Aug 15 2006, 12:31 PM
- - Goldshark   When patented mining claims transfer from public t...   Jan 3 2022, 10:30 PM


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