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Trouble near Boulder, Jeepers trying to claim private road
59er
post Jun 4 2006, 10:05 PM
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Heads up: the Denver metro area Jeep clubs are attempting to claim that another private mining road is public for their joy rides and other entertainment. The miner that owns it has been experiencing vandalism and closed it to the vandals. Recent article in the Times-Call:

http://www.longmontfyi.com/Local-Story.asp?id=7779

Here is a forum where the off-road clubs are debating whether or not to respect the owner's right to close his property:

http://colorado4x4.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=65365

This is happening alot in the front range where new uses are clashing with traditional uses.
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post Jun 14 2006, 09:38 PM
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I think Dan is right, so far. Before any decisions are made the history of the road and claims should be disclosed.

I will play the devil's advocate here though. I have personally watched 4 wheeling clubs trespass and vandalize private property. Excellent example is some claims a group accessed 25+ years back in Utah. They were curious, they cut the lock off the door, and they got caught by the claim owner when they came out. Another time was private property a road went through. I saw that personally (property owner was my landlord). 4 wheelers wanted to go up a canyon, but had to cross private property. They didn't ask for permission (and the owner usually only asks a dollar or two for access), and they pulled the gate out of the ground. Last I knew he permanantly closed the road with a backhoe.

For every group you will have miscreants that have zero regard for other peoples rights. This is in both the off road community and mining as well. There are no perect off roaders such as there are no perfect miners.

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- 59er   Trouble near Boulder   Jun 4 2006, 10:05 PM
- - ColoradoProspector   Well after reading through the article and some of...   Jun 8 2006, 07:44 AM
- - 59er   CP, the problem is that the FS does not own the ri...   Jun 8 2006, 11:48 PM
- - ColoradoProspector   Thanks for posting this info 59er and I'm stil...   Jun 10 2006, 09:45 AM
- - 59er   Hey CP, thanks for keeping an open mind. I think ...   Jun 11 2006, 08:12 AM
- - Coalbunny   I think Dan is right, so far. Before any decision...   Jun 14 2006, 09:38 PM
- - plp.001   The laws on rights of wqy can be found in the 1866...   Jun 15 2006, 07:48 AM
- - plp.001   Of course if that ingress egress interferes with a...   Jun 15 2006, 07:52 AM
- - 59er   Jerry, Not any road built between 1866 and 1976 i...   Jun 15 2006, 08:59 PM
- - plp.001   59er You don't have to prove thaqt the road w...   Jun 15 2006, 11:21 PM
- - Coalbunny   Also depends on the deals the claim owners had in ...   Jun 15 2006, 11:37 PM
- - 59er   Jerry, I think you are misreading RS 2477. It say...   Jun 16 2006, 09:49 PM
- - 59er   Coalbunny. I think this sorta thing happened all ...   Jun 16 2006, 09:58 PM
- - 59er   I did a little research. A couple weeks ago a jud...   Jun 17 2006, 08:14 AM
- - plp.001   59er The courts have found both ways for and agai...   Jun 17 2006, 09:14 AM
- - Coalbunny   Exactly 59er. They should have had it documented ...   Jun 18 2006, 05:31 AM
- - plp.001   I know that San Bernardino County and several othe...   Jun 18 2006, 07:25 AM
- - 59er   I'd be interested in knowing if any of these a...   Jun 21 2006, 07:17 PM
- - wheasonjr   Hi 59er On many patented properties for mining...   Jul 12 2006, 10:56 AM
- - russau   my x-father-in-law had two acres of property(2 sid...   Jul 13 2006, 04:54 AM
- - plp.001   Russ and all RS 2477 Rights of way do not have to...   Jul 13 2006, 09:14 AM
- - 59er   I don't think that this is an RS 2477 right of...   Jul 13 2006, 09:54 PM
- - 59er   Looks like this is a done deal. I guess there was...   Aug 2 2006, 08:37 PM
- - Gotgold   I joined the forum this morning, this topic regard...   Aug 15 2006, 04:15 AM
- - rehab   if the man owns the property (as in patented minin...   Aug 15 2006, 12:23 PM
- - rehab   with the 59er story, I think the guy would have to...   Aug 15 2006, 12:31 PM
- - Goldshark   When patented mining claims transfer from public t...   Jan 3 2022, 10:30 PM


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