GOLDIE, My Goldrop test unit from Sluice Goose Inventor, Exciting New Tool for small, medium scale miners Options

[gold_tutor]

Hi, All!

This is a new thread, inspired by the 2004 thread I started when I first got my hands on the old "Gold Separator" tiny unit which I purchased off of eBay on a hunch and then wrote about here, when Gat chimed in and helped make it work better but not as good as what I'm introducing here today.

Here's the OLD, Original CP forum thread from 2004:

Old CP thread I started on Gat's and My tiny gold separator

Here's my existing unit, GOLDIE I call her, which I'm currently beta testing for Sluice Goose Industries out of Albany OR which has not put these into production yet:



THIS ONE, My GOLDIE, totally HAS ME JAZZED.

Miner, Refiner, and entrepreneur, David Emslie right there in your sweet state, Denise, has seen this at the GPAA shows since May of 2018, and is also Jazzed about this unit and its performance for his reclamation mine which will be online in the next 5 weeks, and start chewing away at those tailings piles around his site. Colorado Approved, and county licensed, and lining up the old mines in the area, Dave wants to use units like my GOLDIE which John built, instead of totally relying upon gynormous tables already built and ready to be site mounted.

David Varabioff of "Motherlode Gold" (GoldBay Gold) is jazzed about getting his hands on a Goldrop unit shortly for his Colorado Quartz Gold Mine in No. California. Yes, the one he sells paydirt from and also finds those scarey beautiful Crystalized Gold Specimens, which just take my breath away.

Thirdly, Yuba Industries, a well known-- at least on this left coast-- miner, is also Jazzed after their initial salted cons test returned very high percentage of gold in their run of table cons when they just completed testing Goldrop. Salted 14 grams, recaptured 13g, aka 93% capture. I know nothing of the mesh sizes nor the composition of the con, nor the beginning weight/volume of cons, just got the report.

THIS 31" unit (adding the changeout catchment jar at the bottom of this "goose" adds another 5" in height), is a verrrrrrry small footprint unit and I predict will obsolete Shaker tables in both speed and rate of capture in the very near future.

This unit, since it is a closed system ELIMINATES the skating/kiting High Corey Factor gold losses from those flat, FLAT gold flakes, and all the floaters, too. ALL THAT, yes, They ALL end up in the catchment jar, and thus into your snuffer bottle for taking directly to the bank, and in short order. This is so satisfying.

I can process a 5 gal bucket of 3/16 screened cons in my GOLDIE in less than 20 minutes, and smile like a Chesire Cat.
Uses an 1100 GPH bilge pump, only 3 AMPs DC, and a gallon a minute. This is IDEAL for portable Solar Panel constant charging while processing, AND a recirc system, since it uses a gallon a minute in water.

I LOVE my "GOLDIE!"

Let's visit about this, CP'ers!!

Glad to be back with such good news, after 15yrs "doin' my thang" but never far away from my pan...which, BTW, I've traded in for the fabulous GOLD CLAW pan. WHEW!!! This is a WALK-OFF, 2 - Run homer to use Colorado Rockies' Baseball color commentary!!!

[gold_tutor]

Well, I'm having more fun than a pig in slop, as they say down on the farm.

I've been continuing my experiments with this fabulous GOLDROP Elutriation tower of inventor John Richmond, Sluice Goose Industries, Albany OR. It was approximatly 11 pounds before the bilgepump, etc., and I've got it down to under 7 pounds now, and have it mounted onto an aluminum tripod what was originally an easel tripod, with extendable aluminum legs.

It is such a joy to set up, and run now. Where as my 5'7" frame could barely see over the very large hopper for the he-males amongs us.

One of the things I've also done is change out that gonzo black, OEM round hopper of John's for a sloped bottom, offset, automotive funnel. Inserted into back of the red funnel in the pix, I've slipped the top water feed so that it makes a gentle arc and due to gravity, the 1/2# of cones slips and slides at a pretty steady rate into the funnel neck and down into the tower for separating then capturing.

I'm having so much fun, primarily because I'm seeing gold in darn near every capture jar that I dump into the regular sized GOLD CLAW when I empty the capture jar, which is often now that I've got this working jiiiiiiis right!

The relaxing sound of falling water out of the tailings pipe fitting, and the certain knowledge that I'm more than 95% guaranteed to get at least some color out of everything I'm running whether from local creeks, sandpits, Oregon beach cons, or sacks of "Washed" Quik Crete sand from HOME DEPOT, or black beach sands from Cape Disappointment in Washington State, you name it.

I'm seeing gold.

Boy, seeing gold every darn time takes the work out of running and finishing off "run of mine" or all the potato salad containers of cons I've never finished up until now, from years and years and years ago.

I'm operating now this test unit as primarily a finishing machine...only running material from -20 down to -50. Since I can clearly see through this unit's crystal clear elutriation chamber, I know when the material has worked down the same con twice. Then I crank up a specific value increasing velocity, send the gangue spinning up and into the tailings tube, CLOSE the gate valve above the capture jar, untwist it, empty the jar. VOILA...all those pretty gold specks and flakes. JUST WOW.

I haven't had this much fun since 1988 when I first learned to pan and thought I'd died and gone to heaven, getting to actually do THAT one on my bucket list.

I can't wait until this thing is on the market for the rest of you, that's how close to being done with the testing that John has me doing.

Just had to check in and give an update.

[bmoore]

Well, I'm having more fun than a pig in slop, as they say down on the farm.

I've been continuing my experiments with this fabulous GOLDROP Elutriation tower of inventor John Richmond, Sluice Goose Industries, Albany OR. It was approximatly 11 pounds before the bilgepump, etc., and I've got it down to under 7 pounds now, and have it mounted onto an aluminum tripod what was originally an easel tripod, with extendable aluminum legs.

It is such a joy to set up, and run now. Where as my 5'7" frame could barely see over the very large hopper for the he-males amongs us.

One of the things I've also done is change out that gonzo black, OEM round hopper of John's for a sloped bottom, offset, automotive funnel. Inserted into back of the red funnel in the pix, I've slipped the top water feed so that it makes a gentle arc and due to gravity, the 1/2# of cones slips and slides at a pretty steady rate into the funnel neck and down into the tower for separating then capturing.

I'm having so much fun, primarily because I'm seeing gold in darn near every capture jar that I dump into the regular sized GOLD CLAW when I empty the capture jar, which is often now that I've got this working jiiiiiiis right!

The relaxing sound of falling water out of the tailings pipe fitting, and the certain knowledge that I'm more than 95% guaranteed to get at least some color out of everything I'm running whether from local creeks, sandpits, Oregon beach cons, or sacks of "Washed" Quik Crete sand from HOME DEPOT, or black beach sands from Cape Disappointment in Washington State, you name it.

I'm seeing gold.

Boy, seeing gold every darn time takes the work out of running and finishing off "run of mine" or all the potato salad containers of cons I've never finished up until now, from years and years and years ago.

I'm operating now this test unit as primarily a finishing machine...only running material from -20 down to -50. Since I can clearly see through this unit's crystal clear elutriation chamber, I know when the material has worked down the same con twice. Then I crank up a specific value increasing velocity, send the gangue spinning up and into the tailings tube, CLOSE the gate valve above the capture jar, untwist it, empty the jar. VOILA...all those pretty gold specks and flakes. JUST WOW.

I haven't had this much fun since 1988 when I first learned to pan and thought I'd died and gone to heaven, getting to actually do THAT one on my bucket list.

I can't wait until this thing is on the market for the rest of you, that's how close to being done with the testing that John has me doing.

Just had to check in and give an update.

Hi,
I've been watching all the tips & tricks to running the Goldrop unit on YT and the Sluice Goose page, just read your comments on eliminating the flat & floater gold issues. How are you running the Cape Dissapointment materials with all those heavy micro black sands? I am waiting to buy a unit from KCo and they won't be back in stock until December. Santa is coming early this year!

[gold_tutor]

Hi, B.Moore, thanks for your message. My response is going to be kinda long, because I'm long on details, and only write about what I can back up with personal experience.

Here goes.

I frankly have run Cape D micro sands, same as I run the various beach sands up and down the west coast. (Haven't been to the east coast, yet, prolly won't get there either...I'm in PacNW, as this forum knows.) First thing I do NOW, is I mag separate them, using the MagnaSort clip on unit by TheGnarl, on the internet. I am building a rotating 12v DC sorter, but it didn't get finished this summer. So, I'm using the slower Colter Young mag sorter product, with its relatively tiny funnel.

You ask why? Because gold is NOT magnetic, altho' tiny gold fines can be occasionally trapped between two magnetite particles in the bulk of the blacksands. THEN I run them through the SWEEEEET GOLDROP!

The inventor has added a new wrinkle, and as his #1 beta tester, I'm waiting for my upgrade any day now. He is SLAMMED with his regular machine shop business, as well as manufacturing GOLDROPs! I just called him on his cell and asked him when K.Co will be shipping his new add-on with the Basic Unit, and he wasn't in...went to voice mail. John's new add-on is the magna-sluice you've seen off the discharge end of the GOLDROP in his more recent videos. When I hear back from him, prolly this evening (11.14.2022), I'll come back and update you. Deal?

He basically has created a magnetite sandbed on that metal U-Channel chute, that fits under the discharge pipe off the back of the GOLDROP, which acts as a sinking bed for the itsy bitsy gold fines, down to all kinds of minute sizes. I've been astonished, frankly at the minus 200+ gold, and more, he is catching with the GOLDROP. You'll still have to wash out the chute, separate magnetite and gold with the Spin-It Off, and finish with the GoldClaw <<< LOVE this little dude, as well. But who minds catching darned near ALLLLL gold bitsy's? Not this prospector!!!

Truth be told, the tiny-er the bitsy gold, the more pure those little hummers are, so it is well worth the effort. To grab, dry and pour into your plastic gold vials, with their screw top lids.

I just do the "mag seps" step first, is all. And since I don't have a Spin-It-Off, I grab the magnetics first, one of the only 2 volume ways I know, which are listed above.

I sure hope this helps. So Glad SANTA has you on the "NICE LIST" for you new GOLDROP! You'll be over the moon with energy and fun and results. Since it is a recirc unit, so you shouldn't have any problem using it on the Peninsula Beaches, both there and at Long Beach, just north of Cape D.

Thanks for asking. I love pix. Send yours, okay?

Sincerely,
Megan "Yellow Chick" Rose
aka Gold_Tutor
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Hi,
I've been watching all the tips & tricks to running the Goldrop unit on YT and the Sluice Goose page, just read your comments on eliminating the flat & floater gold issues. How are you running the Cape Disappointment materials with all those heavy micro black sands? I am waiting to buy a unit from KCo and they won't be back in stock until December. Santa is coming early this year!

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[bmoore]

Hi, B.Moore, thanks for your message. My response is going to be kinda long, because I'm long on details, and only write about what I can back up with personal experience.

Here goes.

I frankly have run Cape D micro sands, same as I run the various beach sands up and down the west coast. (Haven't been to the east coast, yet, prolly won't get there either...I'm in PacNW, as this forum knows.) First thing I do NOW, is I mag separate them, using the MagnaSort clip on unit by TheGnarl, on the internet. I am building a rotating 12v DC sorter, but it didn't get finished this summer. So, I'm using the slower Colter Young mag sorter product, with its relatively tiny funnel.

You ask why? Because gold is NOT magnetic, altho' tiny gold fines can be occasionally trapped between two magnetite particles in the bulk of the blacksands. THEN I run them through the SWEEEEET GOLDROP!

The inventor has added a new wrinkle, and as his #1 beta tester, I'm waiting for my upgrade any day now. He is SLAMMED with his regular machine shop business, as well as manufacturing GOLDROPs! I just called him on his cell and asked him when K.Co will be shipping his new add-on with the Basic Unit, and he wasn't in...went to voice mail. John's new add-on is the magna-sluice you've seen off the discharge end of the GOLDROP in his more recent videos. When I hear back from him, prolly this evening (11.14.2022), I'll come back and update you. Deal?

He basically has created a magnetite sandbed on that metal U-Channel chute, that fits under the discharge pipe off the back of the GOLDROP, which acts as a sinking bed for the itsy bitsy gold fines, down to all kinds of minute sizes. I've been astonished, frankly at the minus 200+ gold, and more, he is catching with the GOLDROP. You'll still have to wash out the chute, separate magnetite and gold with the Spin-It Off, and finish with the GoldClaw <<< LOVE this little dude, as well. But who minds catching darned near ALLLLL gold bitsy's? Not this prospector!!!

Truth be told, the tiny-er the bitsy gold, the more pure those little hummers are, so it is well worth the effort. To grab, dry and pour into your plastic gold vials, with their screw top lids.

I just do the "mag seps" step first, is all. And since I don't have a Spin-It-Off, I grab the magnetics first, one of the only 2 volume ways I know, which are listed above.

I sure hope this helps. So Glad SANTA has you on the "NICE LIST" for you new GOLDROP! You'll be over the moon with energy and fun and results. Since it is a recirc unit, so you shouldn't have any problem using it on the Peninsula Beaches, both there and at Long Beach, just north of Cape D.

Thanks for asking. I love pix. Send yours, okay?

Sincerely,
Megan "Yellow Chick" Rose
aka Gold_Tutor
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Hi Megan "Yellow Chick" Rose,

I sent John an email and he thought KellyCo would be back in-stock on 1 Dec, he's just waiting on parts...empty shelves in the USA everywhere! My dredge group runs 4 dredges on private claims on the Arkansas River between BV and Leadville and we recover lots of -50 to -200 gold. You can imagine how many hours it takes to process 10 gallons of cons per day, first thru the Gold Cube, then the GH Multisluice, finally removing the magnetic black sands and hand panning for several hours. I've gotten so frustrated trying to pan the micro flour gold that I take my cons home and work on them in Winter.

I watched the GoldBay guy use a Goldrop to do a final cleanup on crushed "dust" from his mine, WOW amazing results in a couple of minutes.

What I was interested in was your "Technique" on Cape Disappointment 200 - 300 mesh gold. After watching a couple of John's YT videos, he mentioned that you ran the material 2 times at a slower feed rate into the Goldrop and 5 Gals of cons took 20 minutes to process. I imagine you can over load the 2" grey tube & elutriation chamber, and end up pushing gold out of the discharge port.

From my last outing.



Bill

[gold_tutor]

NICE PIX, Bill. THANKS!

Glad you heard from John. He didn't get my voice mail, I guess, he normally is so very quick to reply.

Have you been watching John Schoonover's pics on FB? He has some kind of multi-sorter by size, honking size weight wise...I've seen earlier fotos of it taking 2 men to lode the heavy metal unit into a trailer and strap it down. I recall maybe 3' x 3' by 4" thick unit only he and the inventor and a literal handful of custom built Micron Gold mechanical gold sorter units' owners understand and use in the last 20 yrs.

His photos are impressive, and he's got a chunk of change already tied up in his Micron Gold sorter im thinking it was over $6K 20 yrs ago, an that was when gold was waaaaaaaaay less than it is currently. He posts interesting pix. The MOST interesting thing is, he use's GOLDROP after he's thru running the heavy square unit described above, to get the REST of his missed, truly micro gold.

I've been following, and always compliment him and his efforts. He checked with me, after he'd bot his Micron unit, for my opinion on what John's GOLDROP would catch, subsequently bot it, and thanked me genuinely immediately upon adding GOLDROP to his circuit as the final-final clean up tool.

He's got a master plan, and I don't know what it is...but he is accepting custom work from miners who have talings buckets left over they don't want to mess with. He works for only 10% of his total harvest and returns 90% back to the tailings' bucket owners. He's busting his hump trying to prove and advance whatever he's up to, and I admire that.

The important part to me is when his MICRON mechanical scavenger unit does its darndest, John S. then turns to the GOLDROP to finish off the tiny gold capture, thanks to the magnetite sluice bed on the GOLDROP, before returning gold and remainders to the original owner.

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Hi Megan "Yellow Chick" Rose,

I sent John an email and he thought KellyCo would be back in-stock on 1 Dec, he's just waiting on parts...empty shelves in the USA everywhere! My dredge group runs 4 dredges on private claims on the Arkansas River between BV and Leadville and we recover lots of -50 to -200 gold. You can imagine how many hours it takes to process 10 gallons of cons per day, first thru the Gold Cube, then the GH Multisluice, finally removing the magnetic black sands and hand panning for several hours. I've gotten so frustrated trying to pan the micro flour gold that I take my cons home and work on them in Winter.

I watched the GoldBay guy use a Goldrop to do a final cleanup on crushed "dust" from his mine, WOW amazing results in a couple of minutes.

What I was interested in was your "Technique" on Cape Disappointment 200 - 300 mesh gold. After watching a couple of John's YT videos, he mentioned that you ran the material 2 times at a slower feed rate into the Goldrop and 5 Gals of cons took 20 minutes to process. I imagine you can over load the 2" grey tube & elutriation chamber, and end up pushing gold out of the discharge port.

From my last outing.



Bill

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