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MikeS
post Oct 1 2014, 05:49 PM
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What time is it?.... IT'S XENOTIME!!! thumbsupsmileyanim.gif

While we were diggin on the claim on Monday, my longtime friend (and co-owner) was getting into a nice pocket of gemmy smokies when he found a odd crystal we had never seen before. We suspected Zircon because of the crystal shape and it felt very heavy. After a specific gravity test it appears to be Xenotime. It is also on the heavy side of Xenotime which would suggest that the Yttrium in it has been replaced with a heavier mineral/element like Uranium or Thorite. It may have mild radioactivity. If I get the chance to test it for radiation I'll post results. If your wondering how to pronounce Xenotime here is a link with audio: Oxford Dictionaries

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The crew and I just before the rare find. (I'm on the left)

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post Oct 3 2014, 02:30 PM
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Here is a picture of one of my unknown minerals.

It is about an inch and a half long and growing on the side of a broken chunk of Smokey Quartz crystal. It is Semi-translucent and when you hold it up to the light you can see a reddish, purple hue to it. I seen you mention Xenotime and had no idear what that was so I Googled it. At first it looked like a real good possible fit. -Grows in association with other minerals, -normally a dark brown color, -can display a reddish hue to it, -heavier than Quartz. Those all seem to fit nicely and the first picture I looked at had a shape kind of similar to this specimen. But then after studying the description a little more I think it falls out of that category. It is much harder than in the "4" range and the specific gravity of this piece is not nearly high enough. I have to lean to this just being an odd piece of Root Beer colored Quartz with a show of Fluorite and maybe something else in it. It is not Xenotime, but it was fun looking.

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post Oct 3 2014, 07:25 PM
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Well.. it looks like it might be Quartz Woody. A specific gravity test should at least tell you if the piece is all quartz or a mixed combo. If it comes out heavy or light for quartz then you may have something different there. Zircon and Xenotime have a tetragonal crystal structure. What you have there appears to have a hexagonal structure like Quartz. There are a few rare earth minerals with a hexagonal structure like Bastnäsite, but Bastnäsite tends to have a flat termination as opposed to a point like Quartz. Sometimes knowing some of the rare stuff around the area helps. This Peak To Peak Website is quite detailed on what minerals can be found in specific areas of Colorado including many of the rare earth minerals and other rare stuff. Take a quick look at the mineral list on the first page. Lots of different and rare stuff to find in the Centennial State! thumbsupsmileyanim.gif


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- MikeS   Colorado Rare Earth Minerals   Oct 1 2014, 05:49 PM
- - RhodoRose   Well, that's a new one on me, never heard of t...   Oct 1 2014, 08:03 PM
|- - MikeS   QUOTE (RhodoRose @ Oct 1 2014, 09:03 PM) ...   Oct 1 2014, 08:37 PM
- - MikeS   After doing more research I realized Xenotime can ...   Oct 1 2014, 08:58 PM
- - Mrs.CP   Fantastic finds!! Owning a claim just ...   Oct 2 2014, 06:36 AM
|- - MikeS   QUOTE (Mrs.CP @ Oct 2 2014, 07:36 AM) Own...   Oct 2 2014, 09:47 PM
- - Caveman   Very, very cool! but..... yer givin' me i...   Oct 3 2014, 08:51 AM
- - Woody   Here is a picture of one of my unknown minerals. ...   Oct 3 2014, 02:30 PM
|- - MikeS   Well.. it looks like it might be Quartz Woody. A s...   Oct 3 2014, 07:25 PM
- - MikeS   Tested the Zenotime for radiation. It has detectab...   Oct 14 2014, 06:08 PM
|- - Coalbunny   QUOTE (MikeS @ Oct 14 2014, 05:08 PM) Tes...   Jan 10 2015, 06:04 AM
|- - MikeS   QUOTE (Coalbunny @ Jan 10 2015, 05:04 AM)...   Jan 10 2015, 11:17 AM
|- - Dave S.   30 CPM...of alpha, beta or gamma? What model of G...   Jan 10 2015, 11:36 AM
- - Caveman   Good! Then Jason didn't get that "war...   Oct 14 2014, 06:54 PM
- - Woody   Hey Mike, I can't find it now, but you menti...   Oct 15 2014, 06:52 PM
|- - MikeS   QUOTE (Woody @ Oct 15 2014, 07:52 PM) you...   Oct 15 2014, 08:39 PM
- - Mrs.CP   Thanks Mike, that's great info to have!   Oct 21 2014, 06:41 AM
|- - MikeS   QUOTE (Mrs.CP @ Oct 21 2014, 07:41 AM) Th...   Oct 21 2014, 07:15 AM
- - swizz   Bookmarked! Thanks for this Mike... and thanks...   Oct 21 2014, 07:36 AM
- - Woody   Yeah I really wiffed that Xenotime, When I sca...   Oct 29 2014, 08:58 AM
|- - MikeS   QUOTE (Woody @ Oct 29 2014, 09:58 AM) Tha...   Oct 29 2014, 05:41 PM
- - MikeS   After months of intense mineral investigations we ...   Jan 9 2015, 07:15 PM
- - fenixsmom   MIKEY!!! Hell of a find buddy!...   Jan 9 2015, 07:55 PM
- - Mrs.CP   Very nice find Mike and great pictures!!   Jan 10 2015, 10:10 AM
- - Dave S.   Some more INFO that I DO KNOW: Xenotime-(Y) is a ...   Jan 10 2015, 12:07 PM
- - Mrs.CP   Welcome to the forums Dave!! Excellent i...   Jan 10 2015, 12:10 PM
- - fenixsmom   About time you hopped on the forum Dave!   Jan 10 2015, 12:44 PM
- - MikeS   Welcome back to the forums brother! Hope to ...   Jan 10 2015, 01:09 PM
- - Dave S.   Thank you all! Some more interes...   Jan 10 2015, 03:25 PM
- - Dave S.   Prospected Devils Head Area for the first time. Fo...   Jul 30 2015, 08:11 PM
- - Mrs.CP   Great information and pictures Dave!! Look...   Jul 31 2015, 08:14 AM
- - Dave S.   I would like to make an update about the Xenotime ...   Mar 23 2017, 12:41 PM
|- - EMac   QUOTE (Dave S. @ Mar 23 2017, 01:41 PM) I...   Mar 23 2017, 12:58 PM
- - johnnybravo300   Wow awesome find. Is there a way you can use a de...   Mar 23 2017, 01:15 PM
|- - Dave S.   QUOTE (johnnybravo300 @ Mar 23 2017, 02:1...   Mar 24 2017, 08:55 AM
- - CP   Very cool Dave, that is very interesting, what a s...   Mar 24 2017, 02:27 PM
- - Dave S.   Sorry, in my last post I said Cesium, but the elem...   Mar 27 2017, 11:01 AM


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