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Prospecting code of ethics
fenixsmom
post Jan 17 2014, 01:17 AM
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Hiya folks! I was wondering about ethical recovery. I was pondering originally how many buckets of concentrate is ethical to bring home to work. That led to the pondering of ethics while prospecting in general. I believe this is a very important subject to touch on because it effects us all. The more damage we do to our rivers, lands etc., the more negatively others will see us. Although to some this may seem like common sense, there are those that don't give a flying you know what. I am a firm believer in preserving the land as close to as pristine as I found it. (Minus a little concentrate). So is there any advice you can give to those of us that are just starting out?
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post Feb 15 2014, 05:58 AM
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I think what I see is an inquiry about the legalities of prospecting. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Technically a 20 lb. bucket is casual use. No claim, Notice of Intent or Plan of Operations required. IIRC the limit is 50 lbs., though Dan (et.al.) will have to verify that for me. I don't remember what the time frame restriction is, however it generally means no use of motorized equipment. In some places the BLM gets really weird about it and they may say that includes the vehicle used to access the site.

If it's not private property, not claimed, not in a state or federal park, there shouldn't be any problem. If someone owns it or has it claimed, get permission first (of course).
There is a grey area, however. If it is owned by a municipality, that may or may not be something you can do. I'm uncertain myself. I have rarely had any problems with municipalities giving me permission to gold pan (if done responsibly and sometimes offering to teach some of their curious employees or their kids how to pan helps a lot), and even a couple state parks had no problem with it.

Be open. Be honest. Be happy. Be friendly. And I betcha you should have very little trouble getting permission.


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post Feb 15 2014, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE (Coalbunny @ Feb 15 2014, 04:58 AM) *
I think what I see is an inquiry about the legalities of prospecting. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Technically a 20 lb. bucket is casual use. No claim, Notice of Intent or Plan of Operations required. IIRC the limit is 50 lbs., though Dan (et.al.) will have to verify that for me. I don't remember what the time frame restriction is, however it generally means no use of motorized equipment. In some places the BLM gets really weird about it and they may say that includes the vehicle used to access the site.


I think the 20lb limitation was set by her doctor actually Carl.
You are correct about casual use (recreational classification) is not something associated with staking claims, NOI's or POO's.
Time frame restrictions are also another pesky recreational area thing. These must be kept seperate from anything discussing actual claim staking and ownership as there are no "time restrictions" for working ones own claims. Nor is it a "requirement" to stake/file claims, use the NOI's or file POO's unless a certain threshold is crossed legally in extractions. Staking your claim is a right....not a requirement!
Motorized restrictions......again, pesky recreational restritions. Claim owners will most certainly need to use motorized equipment in extractions.....remeber not to mix the two, claim ownership is the real deal!


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- fenixsmom   Prospecting code of ethics   Jan 17 2014, 01:17 AM
- - swizz   "buckets of concentrate"??? It would hav...   Jan 17 2014, 05:56 AM
- - fenixsmom   Lol, yeah it does. Perhaps I was overestimating th...   Jan 17 2014, 06:47 AM
|- - swizz   QUOTE (fenixsmom @ Jan 17 2014, 05:47 AM)...   Jan 17 2014, 07:28 AM
- - fenixsmom   Lol "without bringing half the forest with yo...   Jan 17 2014, 06:51 AM
- - Mrs.CP   Welcome to the forums fenixsmom! Chris gave yo...   Jan 17 2014, 07:16 AM
- - fenixsmom   Thank you for a link Mrs. CP! I shall definite...   Jan 17 2014, 09:13 AM
|- - Caveman   QUOTE (fenixsmom @ Jan 17 2014, 08:13 AM)...   Jan 17 2014, 11:11 AM
|- - swizz   QUOTE (Caveman @ Jan 17 2014, 10:11 AM) A...   Jan 17 2014, 11:31 AM
|- - Caveman   QUOTE (swizz @ Jan 17 2014, 10:31 AM) Awe...   Jan 17 2014, 11:50 AM
- - swizz   Well, in my opinion it's best to process as mu...   Jan 17 2014, 09:44 AM
- - fenixsmom   I completely understand your logic! I have onl...   Jan 17 2014, 10:45 AM
- - swizz   Thanks! We like to help and I have yet to meet...   Jan 17 2014, 10:56 AM
- - swizz   Dammit Jim, I'm a Doctor... not an ice miner   Jan 17 2014, 11:54 AM
- - Caveman   Just do it!   Jan 17 2014, 11:58 AM
- - russau   yep,when i go out in the summer dredgeing, i usual...   Jan 17 2014, 12:39 PM
- - fenixsmom   Thank you for supporting his statement Nassau...   Jan 17 2014, 01:03 PM
- - Coalbunny   I think what I see is an inquiry about the legalit...   Feb 15 2014, 05:58 AM
|- - ColoradoProspector   QUOTE (Coalbunny @ Feb 15 2014, 04:58 AM)...   Feb 15 2014, 08:01 PM
- - fenixsmom   Thanks Coalbunny! I've decided I'm too...   Feb 15 2014, 06:15 AM
- - Coalbunny   BTW, one trick I learned years back is using a fun...   Feb 15 2014, 06:39 AM
- - fenixsmom   That is an awesome idea!!!! Ill ha...   Feb 15 2014, 06:42 AM
|- - Coalbunny   QUOTE (fenixsmom @ Feb 15 2014, 05:42 AM)...   Feb 15 2014, 08:27 AM
- - fenixsmom   **sigh** if it ain't ice fishin' he ain...   Feb 15 2014, 10:23 AM
- - fenixsmom   Ahh yes! Dan is absolutely correct. My 20 lbs ...   Feb 15 2014, 09:57 PM
- - Coalbunny   Exactly Dan. I am aware of the 20 lb. limit being...   Feb 16 2014, 01:40 AM
|- - swizz   QUOTE (Coalbunny @ Feb 16 2014, 12:40 AM)...   Feb 16 2014, 04:50 AM
- - russau   yep ive never heard of any weight limits on cons...   Feb 16 2014, 05:16 AM
- - Coalbunny   Not on the cons but for casual use. I have heard ...   Feb 17 2014, 07:44 AM
- - swizz   I haven't seen any such regulation of "50...   Feb 17 2014, 07:52 AM
- - ColoradoProspector   Sorry folks, I forgot to specify anything about th...   Feb 17 2014, 09:56 AM
- - swizz   Great info Dan and I agree regarding the membershi...   Feb 17 2014, 10:07 AM
- - russau   i dont do anything causual! Swizz i agree with...   Feb 18 2014, 06:00 AM


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