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post Jan 17 2014, 01:17 AM
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Hiya folks! I was wondering about ethical recovery. I was pondering originally how many buckets of concentrate is ethical to bring home to work. That led to the pondering of ethics while prospecting in general. I believe this is a very important subject to touch on because it effects us all. The more damage we do to our rivers, lands etc., the more negatively others will see us. Although to some this may seem like common sense, there are those that don't give a flying you know what. I am a firm believer in preserving the land as close to as pristine as I found it. (Minus a little concentrate). So is there any advice you can give to those of us that are just starting out?
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post Jan 17 2014, 09:13 AM
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Thank you for a link Mrs. CP! I shall definitely look at it! I highly doubt ill be taking a dump truck full of material home to work through. I suppose my main concern is since ill be mainly using public land, I don't want to greedily take a whole bunch of dirt home at the end of my stay to play with until I go back. I don't want to degrade the area either. Maybe my worries are for naught, but I figure it's best to ask rather than be shunned for taking more than my fair share.
that being said, when I am on site for the day I plan to work down my buckets and recover when I'm done. But I may want to take some home to play with later also. As long as it's acceptable.
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post Jan 17 2014, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE (fenixsmom @ Jan 17 2014, 08:13 AM) *
Thank you for a link Mrs. CP! I shall definitely look at it! I highly doubt ill be taking a dump truck full of material home to work through. I suppose my main concern is since ill be mainly using public land, I don't want to greedily take a whole bunch of dirt home at the end of my stay to play with until I go back. I don't want to degrade the area either. Maybe my worries are for naught, but I figure it's best to ask rather than be shunned for taking more than my fair share.
that being said, when I am on site for the day I plan to work down my buckets and recover when I'm done. But I may want to take some home to play with later also. As long as it's acceptable.



Fenixsmom, Welcome!
It is acceptable as long as you fill the hole where the dirt came from - there is usually enough loose material around to do that. Taking dirt home to "play" with is a good way
to practice panning, test new methods in a "controlled" environment (back porch, heated garage, or other type of work area) is common practice among a few people (I'm one,
and I know of several others), but it is horribly inefficient if you are doing this a the main method of finding anything. Also, after you carry just one bucket from the area you
are working, you usually will not be carrying a second, or third, so ethically, you are ok. By the way, Jeffco Clear Creek open space prohibits this, by the way - all "dirt" (not
concentrate) must remain. Check with the local parks & open space people to see what the regs are for a given area. There is also the problem of disposal - I had a garden to
do this. If it is your own claim - you can take home as much as you like, but remember, to stay within the law, you must repair the damage when you are "finished" - that
means, you must haul back/replace the dirt you took, replant trees, grass, etc., repair erosion caused by your activities, and so on. The reason finished is in quotation marks
is because that is sort of open ended, as it depends on when you are actually done with it (which could be years). Now, if you are taking pick-up loads, etc., from an open
area (or rec area) as what has happened at Cache Creek, then ethically you have a problem - a bucket or three is not significant, so I do not see a problem unless it is
specifically prohibited.

Just a note - I don't take buckets home very often - just when I have a new idea to try and don't have the time to take a day at the creek. And usually just one - those darn
things are HEAVY!


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post Jan 17 2014, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE (Caveman @ Jan 17 2014, 10:11 AM) *
And usually just one - those darn
things are HEAVY!

Awesome advice all around Scott! You're right about HEAVY too. I try to set my sluice as close to my digs as possible. Even if I have to move buckets more than 10ft from my dig area to the sluice I'm putting out some good sweat. Last thing I would wanna do at the end of the day would be to carry full buckets out... along with all the equip and stuff. It's just too much work.
Confession though: I've been snowmobiling in and out of the ranch (4 miles each way). Along that trail I've been seeing southern exposed dirt showing on the ancient benches alongside the snowmobile trail. I just might put my pick, shovel, and a 5gal bucket on the Bearcat one of these days for a winter bucket of rough material. Probably a fruitless endeavor but my mind wants some dirt to process this far into winter... getting the Jones. I don't really have time for that but I always stare at it when I'm going by. Hell, I still need to sit down and do cleanup on all of the concentrates I got from the ranch last summer. Maybe I'll do that while watching the superbowl this year.


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- fenixsmom   Prospecting code of ethics   Jan 17 2014, 01:17 AM
- - swizz   "buckets of concentrate"??? It would hav...   Jan 17 2014, 05:56 AM
- - fenixsmom   Lol, yeah it does. Perhaps I was overestimating th...   Jan 17 2014, 06:47 AM
|- - swizz   QUOTE (fenixsmom @ Jan 17 2014, 05:47 AM)...   Jan 17 2014, 07:28 AM
- - fenixsmom   Lol "without bringing half the forest with yo...   Jan 17 2014, 06:51 AM
- - Mrs.CP   Welcome to the forums fenixsmom! Chris gave yo...   Jan 17 2014, 07:16 AM
- - fenixsmom   Thank you for a link Mrs. CP! I shall definite...   Jan 17 2014, 09:13 AM
|- - Caveman   QUOTE (fenixsmom @ Jan 17 2014, 08:13 AM)...   Jan 17 2014, 11:11 AM
|- - swizz   QUOTE (Caveman @ Jan 17 2014, 10:11 AM) A...   Jan 17 2014, 11:31 AM
|- - Caveman   QUOTE (swizz @ Jan 17 2014, 10:31 AM) Awe...   Jan 17 2014, 11:50 AM
- - swizz   Well, in my opinion it's best to process as mu...   Jan 17 2014, 09:44 AM
- - fenixsmom   I completely understand your logic! I have onl...   Jan 17 2014, 10:45 AM
- - swizz   Thanks! We like to help and I have yet to meet...   Jan 17 2014, 10:56 AM
- - swizz   Dammit Jim, I'm a Doctor... not an ice miner   Jan 17 2014, 11:54 AM
- - Caveman   Just do it!   Jan 17 2014, 11:58 AM
- - russau   yep,when i go out in the summer dredgeing, i usual...   Jan 17 2014, 12:39 PM
- - fenixsmom   Thank you for supporting his statement Nassau...   Jan 17 2014, 01:03 PM
- - Coalbunny   I think what I see is an inquiry about the legalit...   Feb 15 2014, 05:58 AM
|- - ColoradoProspector   QUOTE (Coalbunny @ Feb 15 2014, 04:58 AM)...   Feb 15 2014, 08:01 PM
- - fenixsmom   Thanks Coalbunny! I've decided I'm too...   Feb 15 2014, 06:15 AM
- - Coalbunny   BTW, one trick I learned years back is using a fun...   Feb 15 2014, 06:39 AM
- - fenixsmom   That is an awesome idea!!!! Ill ha...   Feb 15 2014, 06:42 AM
|- - Coalbunny   QUOTE (fenixsmom @ Feb 15 2014, 05:42 AM)...   Feb 15 2014, 08:27 AM
- - fenixsmom   **sigh** if it ain't ice fishin' he ain...   Feb 15 2014, 10:23 AM
- - fenixsmom   Ahh yes! Dan is absolutely correct. My 20 lbs ...   Feb 15 2014, 09:57 PM
- - Coalbunny   Exactly Dan. I am aware of the 20 lb. limit being...   Feb 16 2014, 01:40 AM
|- - swizz   QUOTE (Coalbunny @ Feb 16 2014, 12:40 AM)...   Feb 16 2014, 04:50 AM
- - russau   yep ive never heard of any weight limits on cons...   Feb 16 2014, 05:16 AM
- - Coalbunny   Not on the cons but for casual use. I have heard ...   Feb 17 2014, 07:44 AM
- - swizz   I haven't seen any such regulation of "50...   Feb 17 2014, 07:52 AM
- - ColoradoProspector   Sorry folks, I forgot to specify anything about th...   Feb 17 2014, 09:56 AM
- - swizz   Great info Dan and I agree regarding the membershi...   Feb 17 2014, 10:07 AM
- - russau   i dont do anything causual! Swizz i agree with...   Feb 18 2014, 06:00 AM


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