SOOoooo, confused!! Options

[AuRush69]

Ok Clear Creek is fun and all but i want to get into some "Real" gold recovery, not just a speck here and there.

so I've been lookin around using Google Earth and using several different add-on mapper tools ( that me show me active claims, closed claims, and land patents with Serial #'s for all of the above) just so we're clear ,I know i'll need to get out in the field and Authenticate every thing to make sure it's open,valid and properly staked.

But for giggles let's say I Found a spot that is surrounded by 3-4 patented properties, has a couple "Active" 160 acre Association claims near by (consuming whole Quadrants) and 25 some odd "Closed" claims all overlapping each other in the said area.

But it seems I can SQueeze in a nice little 20 acre Placer claim, has FS Road access right thru it, has about lets say about 600 feet of creek running thru it.

lets say hypotheticly that Everything is perfect and I have every right to go poking around and I find some good samples in said creek and decide i want to make a claim.

Here's my problem, placers are generally Located using MTRS right ? but lets say i dunno 75% of the 20 acre claim probably will not produce anything . I Don't know any thing about Meets and Bounds except that's how Load claims are staked.

Can you use meets an bounds for a placer claim and in the process gain more creek (Cause it has more room till it hits a patented claim but it crosses over a boundry line on the MTRS grid) or would A MTRS type of claim be unacceptable and rejected by the BLM, because of "wasted land resource"( for lack of better words) ?

I'm kinda lost and have no idea how these things work :D any input would be greatly appreciated.

[AuRush69]

Thanks for the Info guys.

Spent the last couple hours beating up my computer trying to figure out LR2000 system LOL i think i got it licked.

still very confusing ,think i'll take a nap and work on it some more later :D

Did find some thin interesting though :

08/18/1997 480 EVID OF ASSMT FILED 1997
08/18/1997 483 SMALL MINER CERT FILED 1998
08/23/1996 480 EVID OF ASSMT FILED 1996
08/23/1996 483 SMALL MINER CERT FILED 1997
02/15/1996 482 MAINTENANCE FEE/$100 1996

06/21/2007 163 CASE SENT TO NARA DEN/049-07-0062;
05/28/1999 393 DECISION/NOTICE ISSUED NONFILING
08/31/1998 631 CLAIM ABANDONED/FORFEITED
08/18/1997 170 ADDRESS CHANGE FILED XXXXXX JEFF M
03/18/1996 669 LAND STATUS CHECKED
03/18/1996 974 AUTOMATED RECORD VERIF JWB
02/15/1996 501 ACCT ADV IN LEAD FILE CMCXXXXXX-XXXXXX

looks like they didn't record it @ the County ?????? and what's the SENT TO NARA in '07 about ???

[ASTROBLEME]

Thanks for the Info guys.

Spent the last couple hours beating up my computer trying to figure out LR2000 system LOL i think i got it licked.

still very confusing ,think i'll take a nap and work on it some more later :D

Did find some thin interesting though :

08/18/1997 480 EVID OF ASSMT FILED 1997
08/18/1997 483 SMALL MINER CERT FILED 1998
08/23/1996 480 EVID OF ASSMT FILED 1996
08/23/1996 483 SMALL MINER CERT FILED 1997
02/15/1996 482 MAINTENANCE FEE/$100 1996

06/21/2007 163 CASE SENT TO NARA DEN/049-07-0062;
05/28/1999 393 DECISION/NOTICE ISSUED NONFILING
08/31/1998 631 CLAIM ABANDONED/FORFEITED
08/18/1997 170 ADDRESS CHANGE FILED XXXXXX JEFF M
03/18/1996 669 LAND STATUS CHECKED
03/18/1996 974 AUTOMATED RECORD VERIF JWB
02/15/1996 501 ACCT ADV IN LEAD FILE CMCXXXXXX-XXXXXX

looks like they didn't record it @ the County ?????? and what's the SENT TO NARA in '07 about ???

Hello AuRush69,

The "CASE SENT TO NARA" entry means that the holding time for the BLM records has elapsed and the documents in that file were delivered to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA). That is the only legal authority BLM has to dispose of the records that are no longer needed for government business.

I don't know if the records are destroyed once they reach NARA or if they can be retrieved. The county clerk and recorder will keep the mining claim records indefinitely so as swizz suggests, it is a good place to research records.

You are to be commended for taking the time and interest in doing the research prior to sampling an area.

ASTROBLEME